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**AMD Fiji Thread**

Devrij said:
I have to admit I'm still torn. One part of me says "you've waited long enough, just get a 3rd party 980ti for £650 and be done with it". The other says "you could have a water cooled gpu with good performance, and potentially very promising performance for £150 less"

So: sure thing now for £150 extra, or take a gamble to save £150 and have a cool and quiet card.
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You're not the only one. Been reading reviews of the Gigabyte GTX 980Ti G1, and it comes across as a damn good card, and I'm almost swayed to the Green side, but the thought of the WC'd GPU really interests me. I have done custom cooling in the past, and although I enjoy it, I just don't want the hassle, and I really want to replace the extremely noisy R9 290X.


Argh, decisions decisions.
 
Would say its worth roughly the same as a reference 980ti only due to the part that it already has water cooling which would normaly set you back around 70-100 pounds depending on the quality.. Was hoping for some more equal performance numbers with the 980ti perhaps they will pull another 11.11 driver update(or was it 11.12 that saw massive gains on the 7950 and 7970?)..
 
The AIO is not much of a selling point as the card is not particularly silent, with reviewers logging about "high pitched whine" coming from the card - while still being slower and more power hungry, mind.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
£450, deduct £25 for the 4GB and £35 for the lacklustre performance compared to the ti.
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Not according to all reviews, however it will be interesting to see if future drivers will provide improvements seen in cards such as the 7970 or whether the card just isn't ideally balanced.

Is this card effectively 2x Tonga or is it different? The reviews certainly don't tell us the whole story - on some the performance scaling with the overclocking appears to be almost non-existent, and the gap between it and the 390X seem to be lower than it should be?

Taking some of the results from the Hardware Canucks review the average difference in minimum and average frames seems to be lower than it should be:

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Lot of members on this forum and others are coming to the same conclusion on the price it would seem with 450.00 being quoted as a figure they would pay for a FuryX which seems about right for what it offers.
 
Supposedly, AMD has been doing so comparatively little with their drivers since winter because they are making a major change in how they work to better utilize their hardware. This is like seventh hand info, though... :rolleyes:

Face it, AMD's hardware should absolutely smoke nVidia's, they are just not scaling well - especially with multiple CPU cores at their disposal.

It is very apparent, though, that Windows 10 DEFINITELY has an impact:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzFe5OOHZko
 
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Watching AMD over the past couple of months feels like being an Arsenal fan. Constantly waiting for the quality defender or goalkeeper (video card) then getting the player and realising he's not as good as you hoped, but you hope he matures. Then you start thinking, it will be fine once the new sponsorship deals come in and the club can spend big (driver support). I say this as a AFC fan that is now very much looking forward to next season.

In short, it looks to me like a constant case of hoping that the future will be brighter. I hate the fact that so many people have purchased Nvidia (i'm now one of them) I do not want a monopoly, but the fact is, AMD did little to win my business. I hope every one of you owners gets the performance you hope for and Windows 10 will help you in the way you hope it does.

1 thing that really killed AMD with this launch in my opinion was simply not having enough stock. Customers like me had put off buying a video card until after the Fury launch. We had watched 980Ti customers get on with their new purchases with a little bit of envy. Then the launch happens and if you really want the card you had to be either really lucky and get stock for its proper price or you paid £650. I can’t really see any reason at all why anyone would buy a Fury for £20 more than a 980Ti G1. Now with no stock and at best subdued reviews, people are naturally going to hoover up the 980Ti cards.

No matter how you look at this, it’s being handled badly. Yes, 980Ti stock has at times been poor, but they had no competition at the time and given how it’s very hard to buy a Fury now, they still don’t really have any competition. AMD need some consecutive wins, I really hope the Fury Pro and the Nano come out swinging.
 
Windows 10 has WDDM 2.0, essentially a new way to make drivers, maybe this allows AMD to fix some problems with their drivers easier, who knows.

WDDM 2.0 in theory has lower level access, meaning lower CPU overhead, somewhere that NVIDIA has been beating AMD for quite a while since they put a HUGE amount of resources into trying to hide DX11/Driver overhead.

And then its just a faster OS.
 
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