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**AMD Fiji Thread**

So you are still denying the speed bumps, whilst now trying to twist it around that I wasn't originally including the drivers.

jesus wept. I'm not denying the speed bumps, I'm saying they wouldn't double tessellation performance (because 100mhz on the core has never done that). Its either the 3 series or the drivers the 3 series is being tested with on hardocp. That was my observation.

ok well let's show this comment up which predates our convo.
You can show a conversation of you missing the point completely as much as you like. I'll stick with the point that greebo Is making that it appears the drivers are doing some good stuff.
 
jesus wept. I'm not denying the speed bumps, I'm saying they wouldn't double tessellation performance (because 100mhz on the core has never done that). Its either the 3 series or the drivers the 3 series is being tested with on hardocp. That was my observation.


You can show a conversation of you missing the point completely as much as you like. I'll stick with the point that greebo Is making that it appears the drivers are doing some good stuff.

I give up with you. i'm done
 
Right Nutella from the other 390 thread I've been reading too

You wrote this

''It doesnt seem to be GCN 1.1
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/...3#.VYMmMlVVhBf

Hardocp reporting the large tessellation performance of the GCN 1.2. I suspect Drivers are the cause of its middling performance so far. Not enough to swap from a 290x but it seems like more of a refresh than a straight rebrand to me.''

You were correct to assume the increase in tesselation wasn't just clock related, I admit I was basing my foundation on clock speeds I was wrong on clock for clock tesselation results,I apologise for that. I do feel you were trying to fend off the rebrand by claiming Grenada is more than just clocks.

However with driver parity it seems that the only difference would then be the clock differences of greebo's findings ?
 
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Looks like it going by this, just 4 screws like the 295x2.


Looking at the pic it seems you could just unscrew it and flip it around?

Ah cool lol. If I can flip the fan then happy days.

Finally got my passive PSU Installed, new fans on H105 with manual speed adjustment. Now there is a gentle hum from PC. Much better.

Hope the 520W can cope with Fiji though, those shots earlier put it under 400Watt with gaming load so should be good to go hopefully.
 
I don't know much about SFF but I hope your PSU has a fan for when it needs it Boom. :p

edit: oh, is it the Seasonic fanless? Seems dangerous to not have a fan at all. :eek:
 
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I hope they do the same for CPUs with Zen and their promised 40% IPC clock for clock improvement as well.

Fury is shaping up to be fantastic! I hope their drivers, and especially crossfire ones are top-notch for the card. Same for Crossfire profiles.

Agreed, It'd be nice to make a 8 or more core "Zen and Fury" ITX build that whoops butt in the near future (nearish).
 
Right Nutella from the other 390 thread I've been reading too

You wrote this........
You were correct to assume the increase in tesselation wasn't just clock related, I admit I was basing my foundation on clock speeds I was wrong on clock for clock tesselation results,I apologise for that.
No worries


I do feel you were trying to fend off the rebrand by claiming Grenada is more than just clocks.

However with driver parity it seems that the only difference would then be the clock differences of greebo's findings ?
Yes agreed. I made that statement (and the review was made) before we knew the results transferred to the 2 series with the modded drivers. As I said later in our debate this is probably the best result for "the public" (that its a driver improvement not a 3 series improvement).

I was hopeful that the tessellation improvement was coming from elsewhere (sources which the reddit thread discuss for example) as it would have been nice to see a more substantial change in the series than the rebrand + memory boost. But at that time the performance benefits of 15.15 over 15.5 weren't clear so that result stood out, which is why I commented on it.

I think we were a both wrong and right at different points, for different reasons than we both supposed :)

Basically.... this is one huge distraction to bicker over for a week until the interesting bit comes out. :D
 
No worries



Yes agreed. I made that statement (and the review was made) before we knew the results transferred to the 2 series with the modded drivers. As I said later in our debate this is probably the best result for "the public" (that its a driver improvement not a 3 series improvement).

I was hopeful that the tessellation improvement was coming from elsewhere (sources which the reddit thread discuss for example) as it would have been nice to see a more substantial change in the series than the rebrand + memory boost. But at that time the performance benefits of 15.15 over 15.5 weren't clear so that result stood out, which is why I commented on it.

I think we were a both wrong and right at different points, for different reasons than we both supposed :)

Basically.... this is one huge distraction to bicker over for a week until the interesting bit comes out. :D


agreed there is something fishy about grenada and like you I want to know what it is, bios, internal timing, drivers etc,

My apologies to the fiji thread for taking up a few pages.
 
Zen is slated for Oct 2016 so it'd be Greenland by then, 14nm across the board.
True, Fury will of been replaced by then so let's call it the Fury 3, Whatever it is it'll still be nice if we can make an all AMD rig that competes with the best there is at that time.

I'm glad I waited on the Fury now though, It sounds like it'll be a great 1440p card.
 
True, Fury will of been replaced by then so let's call it the Fury 3, Whatever it is it'll still be nice if we can make an all AMD rig that competes with the best there is at that time.

I'm glad I waited on the Fury now though, It sounds like it'll be a great 1440p card.

i am pretty sure the next Fury card will be rebrand of this fury with HBM2
 
I've always stuck with AMD and will continue to do so. I hope Summit ridge will be good, I'll buy it and I'll pair it with the Fury, should make a beast of a system.
 
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