AMD Fiji Thread

Davedree · 18 Jun 2015 at 23:55

Nutella33 said:
again does that often double tessellation performance? If I OC my card the same way will I get those results? I would suggest not.

I didn't mention it because its not a remarkable thing.... For unknown reasons I picked the interesting result

It doesn't provide double tesselation results in all games and not even in Witcher 3 and you are judging it on one game that isn't configured with same clocks or memory configurations, so you can't rule out that equation either.

It needs further testing.

FinglisHobbit · 18 Jun 2015 at 23:57

There are a lot less people slating 4gb hbm tonight than there was last night. Interesting change in tone of thread today!

Nutella33 · 18 Jun 2015 at 23:58

Davedree said:
It needs further testing.

I didnt claim overwise, I just said it was a interesting result that could suggest some-things been tweaked. Its you that projected that I was saying anything else.

Davedree · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:01

Nutella33 said:
again does that often double tessellation performance? If I OC my card the same way will I get those results? I would suggest not.

I didn't mention it because its not a remarkable thing.... For unknown reasons I picked the interesting result

~edit~ You edited. I'm not suggesting it couldn't be a driver difference. I just pointed out its a noticeable difference in the results. All I got as a reply from you and others was "nuh uh, rebrand" as you seem happy to accept the different drivers on the final apple to apple comparison...

you've edited here too, '' I never said it was nuh uh rebrand I was stating that you conveniently only reported half the story and stating ''The overclock and extra ram arnt the reason for improved tessellation performance''., I was providing other equations into the mix that you wasn't providing, and correcting you where you got it wrong. for example the 50mhz overclock difference, it wasn't actually it was 100mhz on the core and 600mhz on the memory (thats a big difference), and the 4gb card 290x has different timings to the 290x 8gb card.

anyway I'm done peace, time will tell

Greebo · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:05

I think the fury x results are impressive but what people seem to be missing is the new drivers have given 390x and 290x cards a 10 to 20% boost in games.

That brings them nearer or beats the Nvidia opposition now, never mind the fury x.

Im beating some 980ti and titan x now in 3dmark strike standard and they are overlocked too.

Nutella33 · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:10

Davedree said:
you've edited here too, '' I never said it was nuh uh rebrand I was stating that you conveniently only reported half the story and stating ''The overclock and extra ram arnt the reason for improved tessellation performance''., I was providing other equations into the mix that you wasn't providing, and correcting you where you got it wrong. for example the 50mhz overclock difference, it wasn't actually it was 100mhz on the core and 600mhz on the memory (thats a big difference), and the 4gb card 290x has different timings to the 290x 8gb card.

anyway I'm done peace, time will tell

I edited to include your edit. dear lord.

I wasnt "reporting half the story" as a way to exclude something. I was commenting on the 1 interesting bit in the entire review.

And again. if 100mhz and 600mhz overclock doubles tessellation performance...why dont we see it on any card when we overclock? answer on a postcard, because the speed bumps are not the answer despite your insistence.

If it is drivers thats more beneficial to everyone and great news. but that wasnt what you were saying originally.

Greebo said:
I think the fury x results are impressive but what people seem to be missing is the new drivers have given 390x and 290x cards a 10 to 20% boost in games.

That brings them nearer or beats the Nvidia opposition now, never mind the fury x.

Im beating some 980ti and titan x now in 3dmark strike standard and they are overlocked too.

Agreed. Looks like theres some tasty bonus's to be had. Hopefully Fury's drivers are "on point"

pete910 · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:10

cough cough Matt

pete910 said:
@Matt, May I ask what *nix support will be like for the fury on release, Also have the driver team carried on their perf boost they pulled off in the 15.5's ?

Bonjour · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:11

Arkham Knight should prove a good test for tessellation performance.

Nutella33 · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:13

Bonjour said:
Arkham Knight should prove a good test for tessellation performance.

Just before Fury release as well. good point. Lets hope those drivers get a more wide ranging release....

faceman123 · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:13

if the fury X beats the TX sign me up, hollywood time baby

AlamoX · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:14

Greebo said:
I think the fury x results are impressive but what people seem to be missing is the new drivers have given 390x and 290x cards a 10 to 20% boost in games.

That brings them nearer or beats the Nvidia opposition now, never mind the fury x.

Im beating some 980ti and titan x now in 3dmark strike standard and they are overlocked too.

some weird shiet is going on lol, now ppl blame AMD for a TOO GOOD of a Driver, live and learn

Squid · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:15

So with the 390x to 290x bios and driver update gain, they become a bit of a bargain at £220 ?

Orangey · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:15

Greebo said:
I think the fury x results are impressive but what people seem to be missing is the new drivers have given 390x and 290x cards a 10 to 20% boost in games.

That brings them nearer or beats the Nvidia opposition now, never mind the fury x.

Im beating some 980ti and titan x now in 3dmark strike standard and they are overlocked too.

Graphics score?

Davedree · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:16

Nutella33 said:
I edited to include your edit. dear lord.

I wasnt "reporting half the story" as a way to exclude something. I was commenting on the 1 interesting bit in the entire review.

And again. if 100mhz and 600mhz overclock doubles tessellation performance...why dont we see it on any card when we overclock? answer on a postcard, because the speed bumps are not the answer despite your insistence.

If it is drivers thats more beneficial to everyone and great news. but that wasnt what you were saying originally.

So you are still denying the speed bumps, whilst now trying to twist it around that I wasn't originally including the drivers.

ok well let's show this comment up which predates our convo.

Greebo said:
To be fair thats not quite true. The new drivers for the 300 series work fine with the 200 series by just modifying the inf.

People are reporting 10 fps more in Witcher with their 290x cards which is a 20% gain.

I cant see any reason why these couldnt have been released as beta for the 200 series now.

Davedree said:
I'm not so sure, i think this is just a situation that's game related.
In this link they proved the 390x clock for clock is the same http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/18/msi_r9_390x_gaming_8g_video_card_review/9#.VYM5uEZiMvx

Greebo · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:18

Orangey said:
Graphics score?

Yeah im still running a i7 950 at 4.2 Ghz so my physx score stinks.

But i assume its valid to compare just the graphics score?

RavenXXX2 · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:20

Greebo said:
That brings them nearer or beats the Nvidia opposition now, never mind the fury x.

Im beating some 980ti and titan x now in 3dmark strike standard and they are overlocked too.

Crossfire 290x beats single 980 ti/tx, should I be impressed........

Boomstick777 · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:21

Anybody know if you can reverse the fan on the radiator so it can be used as intake?

I don't have room for the rad at rear of my case, so would have to use as intake at front. Works fine with AIO on Titan X doesn't seem to raise case temps much, just not sure if this Fury Rad is designed to act as rear exhaust only.

Greebo · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:23

RavenXXX2 said:
Crossfire 290x beats single 980 ti/tx, should I be impressed........

xfire beats sli titans.......................up to u if your impressed or not.

But the point is that in reviews where they have used the new drivers with 290x, there is hardly any difference to the 390x and both cards have gained massive grounds on the Nvidai top cards.

So hence no surprise that the furyx with these drivers will beat 980Ti and Titans.

Gerard · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:23

Boomstick777 said:
Anybody know if you can reverse the fan on the radiator so it can be used as intake?

I don't have room for the rad at rear of my case, so would have to use as intake at front. Works fine with AIO on Titan X doesn't seem to raise case temps much, just not sure if this Fury Rad is designed to act as rear exhaust only.

Looks like it going by this, just 4 screws like the 295x2.

Orangey · 19 Jun 2015 at 00:27

Boomstick777 said:
Anybody know if you can reverse the fan on the radiator so it can be used as intake?

I don't have room for the rad at rear of my case, so would have to use as intake at front. Works fine with AIO on Titan X doesn't seem to raise case temps much, just not sure if this Fury Rad is designed to act as rear exhaust only.

Looking at the pic it seems you could just unscrew it and flip it around?

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