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**AMD Fiji Thread**

LambChop said:
Someone wanna tell this guy, Mantle's been dead for a while now ?
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You know Mantle is used in LiquidVR the AMD to go solution?
Allowing unprecedented latency improvements not even Dx12 can do?
Dead? spanked cow? Parrot sleeping? (Monthy Pyton reference btw)
Its used in every API around the world while the name might not be Mantle its now known also as, DX12, Vulkan, Metal (Mac).

I call that living dead then. (zombie reference)

Just saying:D
 
ubersonic said:
Interesting, according to Kitguru it looks like AMD is refusing to give Fury samples to review sites which are not pro-AMD:

http://www.kitguru.net/site-news/an...-kitguru-fury-x-sample-over-negative-content/

Could be sour grapes, but a bit worrying if true :(
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Oh, that doesn't spell good news. NVIDIA have done this in the past to certain bloggers and individuals but not at an initial launch. They did with TITAN-Z however, and we can probably all guess why that was.
 
flopper said:
You know Mantle is used in LiquidVR the AMD to go solution?
Allowing unprecedented latency improvements not even Dx12 can do?
Dead? spanked cow? Parrot sleeping? (Monthy Pyton reference btw)
Its used in every API around the world while the name might not be Mantle its now known also as, DX12, Vulkan, Metal (Mac).

I call that living dead then. (zombie reference)

Just saying:D
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Yes and no, Mantle helped move DX12 along in the way that it got Microsoft moving but it's not mantle as DX12 has been in development for quite some time.

I did find it a little sad to only see Mantle supported in a few titles though.

ICDP said:
Good for AMD, about time the shill sites got punished IMHO.
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This is a little bad though, If said site isn't 100% pro AMD they don't get a review sample which is a little worrying.
 
flopper said:
You know Mantle is used in LiquidVR the AMD to go solution?
Allowing unprecedented latency improvements not even Dx12 can do?
Dead? spanked cow? Parrot sleeping? (Monthy Pyton reference btw)
Its used in every API around the world while the name might not be Mantle its now known also as, DX12, Vulkan, Metal (Mac).

I call that living dead then. (zombie reference)

Just saying:D
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Good response. ;) and I got the MP ref :)

I'd have to argue that without Vulkan Mantle would be a distant memory so the original Mantle would indeed be dead but reborn due to Vulkan. Vulkan does indeed have the better parts of Mantle. DX12 afaik is a separate entitiy, possibly loosely based on Vulkan but they are both serarate API's.
 
Dicehunter said:
Yes and no, Mantle helped move DX12 along in the way that it got Microsoft moving but it's not mantle as DX12 has been in development for quite some time.

I did find it a little sad to only see Mantle supported in a few titles though.



This is a little bad though, If said site isn't 100% pro AMD they don't get a review sample which is a little worrying.
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To be fair we don't know the details. Amd never said they werent 100% pro AMD. they stated they wont give them a card and allow them to be part of the launch due to their editorial bashing they have given AMD over the last few weeks.

So smacks of a bit of sour grapes but thats AMD choice.

After all, would you feel cooperative to a person who has been ****ging your off for months?
 
ubersonic said:
Interesting, according to Kitguru it looks like AMD is refusing to give Fury samples to review sites which are not pro-AMD:

http://www.kitguru.net/site-news/an...-kitguru-fury-x-sample-over-negative-content/

Could be sour grapes, but a bit worrying if true :(
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Haha absolutely brilliant.

Kitguru made that cringe worthy video crying about AMD not giving them access to Fiji weeks before E3. Basically slating AMD and accusing of them of trying to avoid reviews before launch, AMD obviously wanting to reveal their new Fiji GPU's at their E3 event.

Kitguru obviously knew they would get sample before Fiji would ship to customers for review but cried about it all the same. Didn't stop them making that awful video, totally acceptable from AMD not to want to give Kitguru samples.

I like the way KitGuru try to spin it as they want to report un biased, when in actual fact they made an awful cry baby video that now makes them look stupid, we knew Fiji would have reviews before launch. Just like anybody with a brain could work out. Kitguru just wanted to generate a story. AMD just wanted to unveil their GPU at E3 first.

AMD did the right thing here, why give samples to a cry baby shill site that makes anti AMD videos. This is very pro active from AMD. I'm liking their new style. No messing about.

The video is here:


In hindsight that video is even more cringe worthy now, his winy voice would be enough for me not to want to send him a sample.

'Speculation and guess work'.

Kitguru get someone in who is at least remotely interesting for videos. :D:p
 
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Silent_Scone said:
Oh, that doesn't spell good news. NVIDIA have done this in the past to certain bloggers and individuals but not at an initial launch. They did with TITAN-Z however, and we can probably all guess why that was.
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Well it is a business after all.
The same is true that nvidia for example dont invite Charlie from semiacc for some reason.:p

While I dont think it matter much after a point as those that didnt get cards they buy and make a review later its the first impression AMD is after and its also important.
 
MasterOC said:
Saw one of the benches , can't remember which , and whilst the framrate was always higher than the ti ,the settings where either custom @ 4k or a mix of medium and high . ( bringing it below the 4gb vram threshold ) the witcher is perfect for 4k , optimised textures etc , but everything I've seen shows me memory management is a must .

Had a thought last night , why bring fury x2 with only 4gb per GPU , but then I thought is there no way to connect each interposer to pool the memory so to speak ? Would that be viable ? Giving 2 GPUs one pool of memory but a large pool of 8gb ...
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Yes I would agree that memory management will definitely be a factor on these cards. The 4GB thing is clearly a technical compromise. If there was a way to give these cards more AMD would have done it, even if it meant this pushed the card into Titan X pricing. I suspect that in reality there will be a lot of games that run well in 4GB and just a few that require slightly degraded settings.

I also thought about the shared memory thing but I guess once you have two GPU's fighting for access to the same resource you need a bus of some sort. This would be complex to implement and is only going to slow things back down again. It would also be a bit of a dead end as this will all go away with HBM2.
 
"hristine Browne informed me directly on the phone that the reason for withdrawing the sample was based on ‘KitGuru’s negative stance towards AMD’. She said that with limited product they wanted to focus on giving the samples to publications that are ‘more positive’ about AMD as a brand, and company"

LOL wow, class oozing out of AMD
 
LambChop said:
"hristine Browne informed me directly on the phone that the reason for withdrawing the sample was based on ‘KitGuru’s negative stance towards AMD’. She said that with limited product they wanted to focus on giving the samples to publications that are ‘more positive’ about AMD as a brand, and company"
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'Said Kitguru'.

That's all you need to know right there..
 
Surely if you have a kick ass product you want it in the hands of as many reviewers as possible, what would AMD have to hide.

Think of the **** storm if nVidia did this fro the same reasons.......
 
Boomstick777 said:
Haha absolutely brilliant.

Kitguru made that cringe worthy video crying about AMD not giving them access to Fiji weeks before E3. Basically slating AMD and accusing of them of trying to avoid reviews before launch, AMD obviously wanting to reveal their new Fiji GPU's at their E3 event.

Kitguru obviously knew they would get sample before Fiji would ship to customers for review but cried about it all the same. Didn't stop them making that awful video, totally acceptable from AMD not to want to give Kitguru samples.

I like the way KitGuru try to spin it as they want to report un biased, when in actual fact they made an awful cry baby video that now makes them look stupid, we knew Fiji would have reviews before launch. Just like anybody with a brain could work out. Kitguru just wanted to generate a story. AMD just wanted to unveil their GPU at E3 first.

AMD did the right thing here, why give samples to a cry baby shill site that makes anti AMD videos. This is very pro active from AMD. I'm liking their new style. No messing about.

The video is here > http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/amd-fiji-hbm-and-product-rebadging/

In hindsight that video is even more cringeworthy now :D:p
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Yeah absolutely. Take the HardOCP example as a textbook case - They don't indulge in clickbait shilling for the most part and even delay full reviews long past the rushed out poop that a lot of sites publish in the stampede to be first, so they'll get a sample because they are fair.

A certain PSU VAR shut them off because they got consistent bad reviews because.... their products were both poor performers and more crucially didn't perform as advertised.

There is a difference.
 
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