AMD Fiji Thread

Zerreth · 23 Jun 2015 at 01:34

GoogalyMoogaly said:
But would you want to?
Does that mean that one way or another you'll be blowing warm air over the second heatsink/radiator?

Yup :S

I'm re-measuring everything now to make sure, It's very likely I'll buy another cooler or case.

Twirlywoos · 23 Jun 2015 at 01:41

A mate could have got me a furyx last week but I refused on the basis that the retailer sells jackfrags systems and I put some of the blame on that **** and his subscriber base for the downfall of battlefield.

Rroff · 23 Jun 2015 at 01:45

majnu said:
A mate could have got me a furyx last week but I refused on the basis that the retailer sells jackfrags systems and I put some of the blame on that **** and his subscriber base for the downfall of battlefield.

I think Dice managed that plenty well enough on their own.

Mynight · 23 Jun 2015 at 02:07

I hate that shop (if it is the same one I'm thinking of). Ordered some WC fittings as they were the only ones who still stocked them. Not only did they send me the wrong size but the wrong brand. CS just didn't want to know...

What case is that in the fury picture? Just wondering if the redline is correct.

Orangey · 23 Jun 2015 at 03:22

Rroff said:
I remember going into the "server" room at my dads work in the very early 80s with HDDs bigger than shoe boxes with 2 huge metal platters visible in each roughly record sized - held about 800KB each IIRC heh.

EDIT: Oh wow they were actually 850MB.

I seem to recall they would've cost about 40 grand each, your old man got to play with some expensive kit!

re: board space going to waste, I agree, form factor is a nice concept that allows you to bung as much horsepower as you can in X amount of litres/cubic cms/etc. I do not see games ever getting to a point where developers cannot use any more grunt. But the mindless media keeps beating the drum for shrink, shrink, shrink,; just because it's trendy. If you're sitting down your PC does not need to move. Make it as big as it needs to be to get all the power you can in there.

Mynight · 23 Jun 2015 at 03:33

Although if they keep being able to shrink the board space it could allow for interesting additions to full board size PCBs. I for one look forward to quad GPU single PCBs and 16 GPU sli/Xfire

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Dual core is so last year

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Rroff · 23 Jun 2015 at 03:36

Orangey said:
I seem to recall they would've cost about 40 grand each, your old man got to play with some expensive kit!

I doubt they let him play with them hah.

The computer systems were pretty expensive too due to the nature of the work - ~3 grand 286 base unit with ~3 grand graphics addin boards (with a huge 2MB VRAM) due to being hooked up to a microscope and having to work with high resolution imaging.

Orangey · 23 Jun 2015 at 03:52

Charlie dives deep on Fiji: https://semiaccurate.com/2015/06/22/amd-talks-fiji-fiji-x-odd-bits-tech/

salient points I picked up skimming just now:

- be very careful with the exposed technicolour interposer areas when re-applying paste or fitting coolers (by sounds of it some old OC guides could be dug up and be relevant again)

- remember the "400amp" thing? here's what it means

Those VRMs are pretty impressive too, capable of pushing out 400A if needed at 1.1-1.2V or more than enough to power the card. For the overclocking set the power circuitry is six phase and the water block is capable of shedding 500W if necessary. One looks at the aggregate numbers on the Fury X and the only conclusion you can come to is this card should have headroom.

- explanation for the thickness of the cooler:

Additionally with the water cooler, this insulated cover on the back and front keeps the heat from adjacent devices from bleeding onto the GPU like more open designs. Even the PCB is a matte black one, something that screams attention to detail. AMD obviously put a lot of thought, effort, and care into the physical packaging for the Fury X, once again about time.

MeFox · 23 Jun 2015 at 04:30

Why no preorders yet

muziqaz · 23 Jun 2015 at 06:41

MeFox said:
Why no preorders yet

NDA

Captain · 23 Jun 2015 at 06:53

No benchmarks yet either

CEUOTC · 23 Jun 2015 at 07:07

MeFox said:
Why no preorders yet

Clov!s said:
No benchmarks yet either

Patience peeps

Mtom · 23 Jun 2015 at 07:17

muziqaz said:
Charlie just posted an article in semiaccurate about fiji. He warns about cleaning of thermal paste from the GPU. He is saying that it can potentially damage the chip. Have no clue how much truth there is in his words, but better safe than sorry, eh?

If true then we would have so many extreme overclockers moaning about dead GPUs after they changed the Thermal paste or cooler

I already linked a fury under LN2 so it shouldn't be rocket science. Btw he didn't say damaging the chip but damaging the interposer.

Silent_Scone · 23 Jun 2015 at 07:21

It's likely just a simple case of not applying to liberally like some may have in the past, and even then if the paste is non conductive it might be a non issue.

Mtom · 23 Jun 2015 at 07:24

Orangey said:
Charlie dives deep on Fiji: https://semiaccurate.com/2015/06/22/amd-talks-fiji-fiji-x-odd-bits-tech/

salient points I picked up skimming just now:

- be very careful with the exposed technicolour interposer areas when re-applying paste or fitting coolers (by sounds of it some old OC guides could be dug up and be relevant again)

- remember the "400amp" thing? here's what it means

- explanation for the thickness of the cooler:

Interesting, but he states at the beginning that fiji is a bigger hawaii...while it is clear it is a tonga x2

looncraz · 23 Jun 2015 at 07:27

bru said:
Vulkan is loosely based on the core of what was Mantle. DirectX 12 is nothing to do with either of them.

Not entirely true, Microsoft has long consulted AMD, nVidia, intel, etc. on Direct X. DirectX 12 has a certain amount of similarity with Mantle and its development was spurred by the development of Mantle. Of course, DirectX 12 goes farther than any 3rd party kit could ever manage (since it is a guarantee that it will be supported by everyone and Microsoft can change the kernel or system libraries at will).

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...rectx-12-will-imitate-and-destroy-amds-mantle

Dicehunter · 23 Jun 2015 at 07:37

I don't care who helped make DX12, As long as it works for all of us

looncraz · 23 Jun 2015 at 07:39

andybird123 said:
Sorry, what?. Both sides next cards will be on 16ff+ and will be a new arch so how exactly can they refine Fiji before that?

nVidia may be 16nm, but I suspect AMD will be 14nm LPP across the board. Makes sense for them since their APUs, using the same GPU tech, will be on 14nm and they won't need to scale the GPU tech to two different fab techs. :cool:

Silent_Scone · 23 Jun 2015 at 07:42

looncraz said:
Not entirely true, Microsoft has long consulted AMD, nVidia, intel, etc. on Direct X. DirectX 12 has a certain amount of similarity with Mantle and its development was spurred by the development of Mantle. Of course, DirectX 12 goes farther than any 3rd party kit could ever manage (since it is a guarantee that it will be supported by everyone and Microsoft can change the kernel or system libraries at will).

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...rectx-12-will-imitate-and-destroy-amds-mantle

Hi,

this certain amount of similarity may spur from DX12 rather than from Mantle, DX12 isn't something that was knocked up on a whim, Mantle merely gave focus. Hardware vendors will have been in talks with Microsoft since the birth of DX so this is not something new. There are certain aspects of both that are similar but that does not mean they are derived from one or the other

NoobCannon · 23 Jun 2015 at 07:53

Anyone decided if they are gonna pre order/buy on the the day of release or wait and see what custom cards come out?

Really cant decide what to do myself. Seems like you will wait forever to get the "right" card

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