AMD freesync coming soon, no extra costs.... shocker

Orangey · 31 May 2014 at 16:33

Trying to follow a convo on twitter is like doing a crossword.

Reaper 392 · 31 May 2014 at 16:36

Still no information from AMD concerning whether the monitor just displays the frames when it gets them like g-sync does, or whether the graphics card is predicting a time to render the next frame and setting the monitor to wait for that amount of time before displaying the next frame, as andybird thought they would be doing. While I would be surprised if they went for the prediction method, that article doesn't really make it any clearer since "synchronising to the graphics card" could mean either of the two methods

Neil79 · 31 May 2014 at 16:40

Orangey said:
Trying to follow a convo on twitter is like doing a crossword.

Yeh, especially with the word count limit

andybird123 · 31 May 2014 at 19:27

Reaper 392 said:
Still no information from AMD concerning whether the monitor just displays the frames when it gets them like g-sync does, or whether the graphics card is predicting a time to render the next frame and setting the monitor to wait for that amount of time before displaying the next frame, as andybird thought they would be doing. While I would be surprised if they went for the prediction method, that article doesn't really make it any clearer since "synchronising to the graphics card" could mean either of the two methods

to be clear, it was techreport reporting that AMD's solution involved the GPU predicting the next frame delay
(though it is a claim that does make sense, as that is the way that variable vblank in eDP works - but it is an assumption nonetheless)

Reaper 392 · 31 May 2014 at 21:46

andybird123 said:
to be clear, it was techreport reporting that AMD's solution involved the GPU predicting the next frame delay
(though it is a claim that does make sense, as that is the way that variable vblank in eDP works - but it is an assumption nonetheless)

Just out of interest, do you have a link to the article?

andybird123 · 1 Jun 2014 at 08:13

http://www.techpowerup.com/196557/amd-responds-to-nvidia-g-sync-with-freesync.html?cp=2

Sorry, Techpowerup, helps if you can remember the right website

Reaper 392 · 1 Jun 2014 at 13:57

thanks for that. it will be interesting to see if that is how freesync actually works on standalone monitors, and how good it is compared to g-sync

LtMatt · 4 Jun 2014 at 07:54

So now what? AMD is at Computex and of course is taking the opportunity to demonstrate a "FreeSync" monitor with the DisplayPort 1.2a Adaptive Sync feature at work. Though they aren't talking about what monitor it is or who the manufacturer is, the demo is up and running and functions with frame rates wavering between 40 FPS and 60 FPS - the most crucial range of frame rates that can adversely affect gaming experiences. AMD has a windmill demo running on the system, perfectly suited to showing Vsync enabled (stuttering) and Vsync disabled (tearing) issues with a constantly rotating object. It is very similar to the NVIDIA clock demo used to show off G-Sync.

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The demo system is powered by an AMD FX-8350 processor and Radeon R9 290X graphics card. The monitor is running at 2560x1440 and is the very first working prototype of the new standard. Even more interesting, this is a pre-existing display that has had its firmware updated to support Adaptive Sync. That's potentially exciting news! Monitors COULD BE UPGRADED to support this feature, but AMD warns us: "...this does not guarantee that firmware alone can enable the feature, it does reveal that some scalar/LCD combinations are already sufficiently advanced that they can support some degree of DRR (dynamic refresh rate) and the full DPAS (DisplayPort Adaptive Sync) specification through software changes."

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http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-...Monitor-DisplayPort-Adaptive-Sync-Feature#new

triss · 4 Jun 2014 at 08:08

^^ thats great news Matt i hope we can flash old monitors

Slightly worse news

Though is that this feature isn't going to be supported on the full range of AMD Radeon graphics cards. Only the Radeon R9 290/290X and R7 260/260X (and the R9 295X2 of course) will actually be able to support the "FreeSync" technolog

I hope this can be adjusted in the future to at least include 280x's

LtMatt · 4 Jun 2014 at 08:12

triss said:
^^ thats great news Matt i hope we can flash old monitors

Slightly worse news

I hope this can be adjusted in the future to at least include 280x's

Yeah that last part is a kicker, hopefully they can change that. Won't affect me though luckily. (on the primary rig at least)

Martini1991 · 4 Jun 2014 at 08:13

I can't see many monitor vendors releasing a firmware update.
I have an Asus sonic master 2560x1080, I'd love a firmware update, but if not, hopefully when I get a 3440X1440 next year it'll have free sync, or if AMD don't release something that creates game streaming to android, a g sync monitor.
This 2560x1080 will be one of my shortest purchases lol.

triss · 4 Jun 2014 at 08:14

Yes i'm not sure why it is,, maybe the connector? iI thought the tech had been on the AMD GPU's for a gen or two now

Martini1991 · 4 Jun 2014 at 08:16

AMD in another none truth shocker.

bru · 4 Jun 2014 at 08:19

triss said:
Yes i'm not sure why it is,, maybe the connector? iI thought the tech had been on the AMD GPU's for a gen or two now

It has and as was stated before FreeSync will work on older GPU's for video playback and only on the new listed GPU's for gaming, so the artilce that said it had been in AMD GPU's for a few generations was technically correct, albeit slightly misleading.

triss · 4 Jun 2014 at 08:32

Ah thanks Bru

shankly1985 · 4 Jun 2014 at 09:51

I would love if my benq had a firmware update to support this.

Marine-RX179 · 4 Jun 2014 at 10:12

Martini1991 said:
I can't see many monitor vendors releasing a firmware update.
I have an Asus sonic master 2560x1080, I'd love a firmware update, but if not, hopefully when I get a 3440X1440 next year it'll have free sync, or if AMD don't release something that creates game streaming to android, a g sync monitor.
This 2560x1080 will be one of my shortest purchases lol.

I honestly don't see monitors makers would release firmware update for EOL or discontinued range...monitors that are still on the shelf might though, purely from sales and profits point of view.

If I was monitor maker, I wouldn't give reason for people to hang on to old monitors for longer than needed as well

LtMatt · 4 Jun 2014 at 10:17

Marines Monitors. Has quite a catchy ring to it.

VincentHanna · 4 Jun 2014 at 10:19

I'd love a decent 4k monitor with Freesync.

Could finally replace my 9 year old Dell 2005FPW*

*I use a 55" 1080p Panny VT50 for gaming.

Rroff · 4 Jun 2014 at 10:29

Marine-RX179 said:
I honestly don't see monitors makers would release firmware update for EOL or discontinued range...monitors that are still on the shelf might though, purely from sales and profits point of view.

If I was monitor maker, I wouldn't give reason for people to hang on to old monitors for longer than needed as well

A lot of monitors aren't even designed for end user firmware updating. Unless AMD pays a major monitor brand to implement it and headline it as a major feature forcing the others to follow suit or lose out on sales I can't see this taking off very fast.