AMD : FreeSync Monitors Shipping in December – Will Cost $100 Less Than Nvidia G-Sync

Marine-RX179 · 6 Dec 2014 at 11:07

Gregster said:
I know of many AMD owners who bought the ROG Swift, simply because it is 1440P - 144Hz and the only one of its kind.

---which has specfic feature that's not in other Gsync monitor that's the point.

Take a £330-£350 1920 res Gsync monitor for example...without the Gsync, it is just a 1920 res monitor, that has no benefit over other 1920 res monitor everywhere in the £150 price region...

andybird123 · 6 Dec 2014 at 11:14

Marine-RX179 said:
People who invested heavily into 3D Visions and the kits wouldn't simply cannot afford to considering the alternative offer, now the same applies for people got Gsync monitors...they MUST stay with Nvidia, if they want the monitors' main feature to contunue to work

That is pretty funny considering I know myself and several other people had 3Dvision monitors and kits, switched to other monitors without a second thought, your "concern" doesnt actually seem to stack up - where are these people that "can't afford" to consider any alternative?

By coincidence I now have a 3d vision monitor again and dug my old 3d vision hub out of the bottom of my bits box and got a new pair of glasses for £5, but that wasnt a contributing factor to any of my other purchases

Basically what you are saying is that the ONLY reason to consider AMD is to save money, so you have to include the "cost" of "losing" something when moving to AMD. Shouldnt moving to AMD be about the benefits of AMD?

The way I look at buying hardware is "what are the benefits", if there is a real benefit to choosing one over another i buy the one that does what i want. I dont include the cost of past purchases in future ones, however if a feature is missing then obviously that counts against the product where it is missing. If AMD are the first to release a *working* hardware ecosystem that includes 4K at 40" with adaptive sync and 120hz then i'll buy that system, i'll sell off my Nvidia hardware for whatever I can get and use it towards the new purchase but in no way do I see that as a "prison" keeping me tied to what I have now, it isnt like I see my toys as investments, when I have the money to buy new toys I buy them, if I can get something back on stuff I no longer need then that is just a bonus.

Gregster · 6 Dec 2014 at 11:16

From the latest leaked slides, it seems the first monitors will be 2015. It makes me wonder if Viewsonic and BenQ have theirs ready but because Samsung have a contract with AMD, they are not allowed to release?

Bonjour · 6 Dec 2014 at 11:17

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only person with a 'bits box'.

chaparral · 6 Dec 2014 at 11:20

andybird123 said:
That is pretty funny considering I know myself and several other people had 3Dvision monitors and kits, switched to other monitors without a second thought, your "concern" doesnt actually seem to stack up - where are these people that "can't afford" to consider any alternative?

+1 I would just buy another monitor..(Just Class it as another New Toy ..

)

Already have two dell 2410u monitors,a dell 2711 monitor and an asus ROG swift... :eek:

Gregster · 6 Dec 2014 at 11:20

Bonjour said:
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only person with a 'bits box'.

LMAO...I have 2 "bits sheds"...Stacked full of cases/monitors/mobos/several old CPUs/millions of cables etc ohhh and Boxes!!! I can never seem to throw away boxes, even though it would never be worth selling

chaparral · 6 Dec 2014 at 11:22

Gregster said:
LMAO...I have 2 "bits sheds"...Stacked full of cases/monitors/mobos/several old Wifes /millions of cables etc ohhh and Boxes!!! I can never seem to throw away boxes, even though it would never be worth selling

Fixed........

Orangey · 6 Dec 2014 at 11:26

I have a large box brimming over with IDE cables, old heatsinks, misc junk that will never get used. There may even be my old Asus GF3 Ti500 3D goggles. How were those even supposed to stay on your face???

Silent_Scone · 6 Dec 2014 at 11:37

Gregster said:
I know of many AMD owners who bought the ROG Swift, simply because it is 1440P - 144Hz and the only one of its kind.

Yep, it's a fantastic monitor regardless...Certain members would rather spite their own face just because it's an Nvidia product. Do you know how i know that is true? Because not once have people on this board commented on the actual specification of the Swift, they only complain about G-Sync.

Save yourself 100 odd quid, moan and groan about not being able to use certain technologies at the people that made them for their own products, rather than the company that's yet to give you these products.

That's gamer logic for you. Now watch people argue with that.

Gregster · 6 Dec 2014 at 11:45

Silent_Scone said:
Yep, it's a fantastic monitor regardless...Certain members would rather spite their own face just because it's an Nvidia product. Do you know how i know that is true? Because not once have people on this board commented on the actual specification of the Swift, they only complain about G-Sync.

Save yourself 100 odd quid, moan and groan about not being able to use certain technologies at the people that made them for their own products, rather than the company that's yet to give you these products.

That's gamer logic for you. Now watch people argue with that.

A lot of people use ULMB for twitch games and say it really helps. I am not good enough to worry about that.

Lol Chaparral... My Mrs would like to bury me in a shed

Marine-RX179 · 6 Dec 2014 at 11:57

Silent_Scone said:
Yep, it's a fantastic monitor regardless...Certain members would rather spite their own face just because it's an Nvidia product. Do you know how i know that is true? Because not once have people on this board commented on the actual specification of the Swift, they only complain about G-Sync.

Save yourself 100 odd quid, moan and groan about not being able to use certain technologies at the people that made them for their own products, rather than the company that's yet to give you these products.

That's gamer logic for you. Now watch people argue with that.

You are clearly missing the point.

The same people thinks Mantle sucks because it only benefit AMD users, and directx 12 would be much better because both AMD and Nvidia user can use it; flip it over...with the same principle, Gsync only benefit Nvidia users so if "Freesync" turn out good, and both AMD and Nvidia users can use it so it should be better option than Gsync like how directx12 is gonna be?

But clearly that isn't the case, cause anything that AMD users can use which Nvidia users cannot automatically suck, and things that only Nvidia users can use which AMD users cannot are awesome :rolleyes:

Double-standard at the finest

Bottom line is that if directx12 turn out good enough, then Mantle wouldn't (really) be needed; if Freesync turn out good enough, then Gsync wouldn't be needed- same principle. Users would then be able to choose whatever graphic card they want without things holding them back.

Silent_Scone · 6 Dec 2014 at 12:15

I don't think Mantle sucks.

You carry on arguing. With yourself. lol

Marine-RX179 · 6 Dec 2014 at 12:21

Silent_Scone said:
I don't think Mantle sucks.

You carry on arguing. With yourself. lol

I didn't say you did. But you clearly missed the swarm of people preaching how AMD is trying to divide the market with Mantle back then :rolleyes:

A sync approach, or API that can work on both AMD and Nvidia will offer much more freedom than those approach that would work with only one of the two.

Phixsator · 6 Dec 2014 at 12:21

Marine-RX179 said:
You are clearly missing the point.

The same people thinks Mantle sucks because it only benefit AMD users, and directx 12 would be much better because both AMD and Nvidia user can use it; flip it over...with the same principle, Gsync only benefit Nvidia users so if "Freesync" turn out good, and both AMD and Nvidia users can use it so it should be better option than Gsync like how directx12 is gonna be?

But clearly that isn't the case, cause anything that AMD users can use which Nvidia users cannot automatically suck, and things that only Nvidia users can use which AMD users cannot are awesome

Double-standard at the finest

Bottom line is that if directx12 turn out good enough, then Mantle wouldn't (really) be needed; if Freesync turn out good enough, then Gsync wouldn't be needed- same principle. Users would then be able to choose whatever graphic card they want without things holding them back.

The thing i find "funny" is that the new freesync monitors are just making the adaptive refresh standard available to the GPU to take advantage of which, as fare as i understand it, would make it possible for nvidia to support those monitors variable refresh rate capabilities as well. But we all know that wont happen(you can come back and taunt me

if it actually happens cause we will both be cheering) because it would undermine nVidias own tech a lot, atleast in their own eyes.

Personally not a big fan of the way nVidia thinks cause i personally believe it hurts the consumer and thats coming from a gtx 780 owner.

Gregster · 6 Dec 2014 at 12:30

I think the thing is Marine, people portray AMD as the good guys and nVidia as the bad guys but AMD have their own proprietary tech, as do nVidia (PhysX/G-Sync/3DVision/Truaudio/Mantle/CSAA/TXAA/MLAA etc but because nVidia want to look after their own customers and their own interests, why does that make them bad? Each corporation wants our money and the one that gives me what I want more gets my money. I have no brand loyalty (believe it or not) but I like 3D, I like PhysX, I love G-Sync, I like Mantle, I like TrueAudio. I don't care much for TXAA or CSAA and MSAA does me proud.

It comes down to what you can justify on spending for requirements and some can justify spending the extra and some can't but that doesn't make either right or wrong and soooooo many people purposefully place the person with each brand into a "Camp". It is really petty and I hate it. I used to find it funny but grown men going on like this is a little embarrassing frankly.

I have an AMD laptop that does a fair job of games at semi decent settings and I happily game away for reference. The drivers are a little naff, as I have to get them from Lenovo and they are not overly quick on that but it copes pretty well. I want my fellow gamer to enjoy games as much as me and when gaming on BF4 for example, I don't care what people have in their system and feel for people when they get BSOD's/crashes/problems regardless of what is in their system. I wish a few others would step back and see how placing people into Team Red or Team Green and then ignoring/having a go at anything they say because they use the opposite brand looks from a neutral POV.

Rant over

shankly1985 · 6 Dec 2014 at 12:38

mmj_uk said:
People who aren't financially constrained buy NVidia because they like well polished products, AMD's Freesync is basically a driver/software hack which is why they are unable to sell it, all of the engineering (which NVidia did themselves) is being done by monitor manufacturers and they will profit from it with increased prices.

NVidia have had a product on the market for months whereas AMD are still waiting on monitor manufacturers to engineer theirs, I wouldn't be surprised if there are compatiblity issues down the line with Freesync either.

I could right this min buy 2 980s and a Gsync monitor if I wanted. So stop talking crap.

Why don't I buy nvidia? Well simple really amd does what I need it to do. If I already getting over my refresh rate on my monitor why should I pay extra, to get the same job?

I then also like amd features better again that is personal preference.

You should be banned from round here crap talking like that. You basically calling all amd users poor, enjoy the back lash you fool.

Gregster · 6 Dec 2014 at 13:00

Give it a rest calling for bans Shankly. He never said AMD owners are poor, he said people who are not financially restrained buy nVidia. I say people who are not financially restrained buy what the hell they like, so does that mean I am saying everyone else is poor?

Goodness sake man, lighten up.

Stanners · 6 Dec 2014 at 13:05

shankly1985 said:
I could right this min buy 2 980s and a Gsync monitor if I wanted. So stop talking crap.

Why don't I buy nvidia? Well simple really amd does what I need it to do. If I already getting over my refresh rate on my monitor why should I pay extra, to get the same job?

I then also like amd features better again that is personal preference.

You should be banned from round here crap talking like that. You basically calling all amd users poor, enjoy the back lash you fool.

Irony

Silent_Scone · 6 Dec 2014 at 13:06

The laughable thing although he might be after a reaction with how he's portraying it, he's not far off. Not because AMD users are all poor, that's a ridiculous thing to say. However like most they are after the best to a certain budget. Nvidia products are more expensive because they charge what the market will allow them to, and it works for them.

It's been discussed to death so there's no point continuing it. There's a key difference between this, and just liking something because you've grown to like it

Stanners · 6 Dec 2014 at 13:09

I just wish people would stop playing the victim.its quite tragic.