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AMD : FreeSync Monitors Shipping in December – Will Cost $100 Less Than Nvidia G-Sync

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I thought you had improved but still the same old you, I'm done with you once again.

Last advise is to read those links and more Googling and educate yourself as 9/10 you are wrong on this forum but too stubborn to know it.
 
jh30uk said:
I thought you had improved but still the same old you, I'm done with you once again.

Last advise is to read those links and more Googling and educate yourself as 9/10 you are wrong on this forum but too stubborn to know it.
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I have educated myself, its why i have an IPS and will never go back to TN.
 
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I never said you should go back to TN (your making things up or cannot read) but I did say VA is best all round and has better contrast and blacks/shadow detail than TN or IPS.

Enjoy your amd thread.
 
I thought its always been know IPS give better blacks and colours, TN give better response time, input lag and reduced motion blur.

For gaming alone TN all the way.. Could depend on the games you play mind you. IPS for everything else.
 
jh30uk said:
I never said you should go back to TN (your making things up or cannot read) but I did say VA is best all round and has better contrast and blacks/shadow detail than TN or IPS.

Enjoy your amd thread.
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What you said was:

jh30uk said:
IPS has worst black than TN, VA has better colours than TN and better blacks than IPS, does not have IPS glow is better all round esp for gaming. :)
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The simple fact is they don't, they may have early on, just as they were slow early on, that is no longer true, like anything it also depends on the quality of the screen. If you get a low end cheap one its not going to be much good.

The contrast on a good and / or modern IPS screen is just as good if not better than a good TN, the response time has also improved greatly, mine was class leading when i bought it 3 or 4 years ago, 5ms Response time and a contrast ratio of 5,000,000:1 (DFC) Pretty good by any standard today, and probably improved upon by now.

LG Flatron IPS226.

Apple use LG and Samsung IPS screens for Their Retina Displays for #### Sake.
 
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Input lag really is not a problem with good IPS monitors these days, yes TN is better but I bet you that no one would notice the difference between IPS and TN when it comes to input lag unless you are a "pro" CS:GO gamer.....

Blacks and contrast ratio are the best on VA followed by IPS and then TN. Contrast ratio for;

VA is usually about 2500-3500:1
IPS is about 900-1300:1
TN is about 700-1000:1 (the 120-144HZ monitors seem to be worse for colours and contrast ratio)

Response time i.e. motion clarity is the best on TN. It is the only thing, which I really hate with my IPS monitors....

I can't remember exactly but iirc VA either has high response time or high input lag, although perhaps that has changed since I last looked at VA monitors (a year or so ago)

Viewing angles for IPS and VA are MUCH better than TN, with TN as soon as you go of centre, the colours get washed out/muted looking

IPS is generally better for colours and general image quality hence why all the pro photographers use IPS monitors

For my next monitor, I will probably go with VA though purely for better blacks/contrast ratio.
 
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I sit in front of my monitor and tbh for playing games who cares what type it is there all good for the people who bought them everyone is different and notices small things others would not.
 
Ian Evey said:
I sit in front of my monitor and tbh for playing games who cares what type it is there all good for the people who bought them everyone is different and notices small things others would not.
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Yup.

If you like whats in front of you then what does it matter what anyone else thinks?

Oh wait, silly me, this is the OcUK graphics forum, one persons views HAVE to be the be all and end all :rolleyes:
 
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Input lag really is not a problem with good IPS monitors these days, yes TN is better but I bet you that no one would notice the difference between IPS and TN when it comes to input lag unless you are a "pro" CS:GO gamer.....

Blacks and contrast ratio are the best on VA followed by IPS and then TN. Contrast ratio for;

VA is usually about 2500-3500:1
IPS is about 900-1300:1
TN is about 700-1000:1 (the 120-144HZ monitors seem to be worse for colours and contrast ratio)

Response time i.e. motion clarity is the best on TN. It is the only thing, which I really hate with my IPS monitors....

I can't remember exactly but iirc VA either has high response time or high input lag, although perhaps that has changed since I last looked at VA monitors (a year or so ago)

Viewing angles for IPS and VA are MUCH better than TN, with TN as soon as you go of centre, the colours get washed out/muted looking

IPS is generally better for colours and general image quality hence why all the pro photographers use IPS monitors

For my next monitor, I will probably go with VA though purely for better blacks/contrast ratio.
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When it comes to input lag and response times its a very murky story and sadly the raw numbers mean nothing - I've seen "gaming" panels with extremely low numbers for things like "response" times that if you pull a fast 180 degree view change in a game will take 30ms or so to stabilise and yet you get other panels like that used in the Dell U2913WM and the similar LG monitor which have pretty average numbers for that kind of stuff but stabilise almost instantly in the same situation.

Even just desktop use these days I can't stand 60Hz panels though :S
 
Having owned a Dell U2713H IPS panel as well as various 4K/1440P/1080P monitors, I could seriously feel the input lag from the slow response times on the Dell. I am far from a pro gamer as well, but that was the massive put off for me on the Dell IPS.
 
BenQ and Viewsonic FreeSync monitors in time for holidays

Samsung stole the show last week with its big FreeSync announcement and the company went on record confirming at least five FreeSync capable monitors will roll out by March.

Our sources have informed us that two other monitor manufactures can ship FreeSync monitors even sooner, before Christmas. BenQ and Viewsonic will have monitors ready to ship quite soon, almost hitting the previously reported November timeframe.
Samsung helped AMD change its mind

Our sources indicated that Samsung changed AMD0s mind and insisted to be the first one to announce its FreeSync lineup. The other two players, who originally wanted to announce their monitors and even ship them by the end of November, had to slightly delay their rollout plans.

We have few details about the screen size or resolution at this point, but back in September AMD told us that DisplayPort receivers from MStar, Novatek and Realtek enable 144Hz panels with QHD 2560x1440 and UHD 3840x2160 panels up to 60Hz. They will go head to head with G-Sync offerings designed for Nvidia graphics cards.
What comes next?

If you are planning a monitor update soon, the choice of your next gaming monitor will most likely be largely influenced by current generation graphics cards and games.

There is already a number of different approaches - eg you can get a touch panel in case you want to make the most of the new Windows touch-friendly user interface, or you can go for a proper gaming panel in 2560x1440, with a 144Hz refresh rate, FreeSync or G-Sync, or you can trade high performance for high resolution and get a cheap 4K/UHD panel limited to 60Hz, sans syncing technology.

The jury is still out, but AMD and Nvidia have made sub-4K monitors quite a bit more appealing with FreeSync and G-Sync.
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http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/36389-benq-and-viewsonic-feesync-monitors-in-time-for-holidays
 
Final8y said:
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/36389-benq-and-viewsonic-feesync-monitors-in-time-for-holidays
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Fudzilla posted on how 30fps is better to do damage control for Ubisoft, take whatever they say with a grain of salt.

I have to agree with Gregster and Shanky here for TN panels, but this has to do with tolerance levels of each individual.

Those that can't see the difference are the ones that mumble about how 30fps is cinematic.

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When it comes to input lag and response times its a very murky story and sadly the raw numbers mean nothing - I've seen "gaming" panels with extremely low numbers for things like "response" times that if you pull a fast 180 degree view change in a game will take 30ms or so to stabilise and yet you get other panels like that used in the Dell U2913WM and the similar LG monitor which have pretty average numbers for that kind of stuff but stabilise almost instantly in the same situation.

Even just desktop use these days I can't stand 60Hz panels though :S
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That 30ms delay might be something totally different than the actual panel
 
When it's working you don't notice it. When you don't have it, then you think your monitor is broken XD it's how I feel losing g-sync so waiting on these free sync monitors very egarly
 
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