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AMD : FreeSync Monitors Shipping in December – Will Cost $100 Less Than Nvidia G-Sync

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And another thing Bru, do you understand why they showed it on a Laptop??

I'll give you a hint, because Laptops have always been able to run this tech.. So in that "ShowCase" they was no FreeSync drivers..

FreeSync is taking the Laptop power saving feature and bringing it to the Desktop Monitors and Graphic cards this needs new Drivers.
 
psychas said:
i assume correctly that next years all of the monitors have freesync as standard ? and some of them have freesync and gsync all in one ?
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Well a slight correction, yes future monitors could all be Adaptive Sync capable.( as that is the part of the process that is in the VESA standard) So I suppose that it could be possible for future monitors to be Adaptive Sync and Gsync compatible.

I've said it a shed load of times already but once more into the fray and all that.

Freesync is the part of the process that is built in to the AMD cards it has nothing to do with the monitors them selves at all. You can have one without the other but you need both parts to get the technology to work. This is how AMD can say it is open, because anyone can build the necessary bits into their display adapters to utilise Adaptive Sync capable monitors. Far too many people on this forum either do not understand or just do not present what they are saying without making this point clear.
 
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shankly1985 said:
And another thing Bru, do you understand why they showed it on a Laptop??

I'll give you a hint, because Laptops have always been able to run this tech.. So in that "ShowCase" they was no FreeSync drivers..

FreeSync is taking the Laptop power saving feature and bringing it to the Desktop Monitors and Graphic cards this needs new Drivers.
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This just makes me think you don't actually understand how any of this works. :confused:
 
MrMarvelous said:
I'm assuming that the 2XX series will be supported though i'm not sure they'd support the older 7XXX series cards.
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Shows that Freesync will run on the Firepro, 7000 series, R series and I'm assuming that white blurry blob says certain APU's.
 
Gregster said:
I wonder if AMD has any plans to support older cards and Freesync?
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No, because they don't have the necessary hardware controller. It's why Nvidia won't be supporting adaptive sync, at least for the moment, because of none of their cards have the hardware needed.
 
andybird123 said:
7 series is only supported for video, not gaming
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yup correct, I couldn't get the AMD freesync FAQ to load.



edit: found it now.
All AMD Radeon™ graphics cards in the AMD Radeon™ HD 7000, HD 8000, R7 or R9 Series will support Project FreeSync for video playback and power-saving purposes. The AMD Radeon™ R9 295X2, 290X, R9 290, R9 285, R7 260X and R7 260 GPUs additionally feature updated display controllers that will support dynamic refresh rates during gaming.
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bru said:
This just makes me think you don't actually understand how any of this works. :confused:
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Why? He is right, this tech has been part of eDP spec for a few years now. It's been used by AMD and Intel in laptops and APUs. Its why older GCN APUs support adaptive sync while the discrete cards don't.

It's the exact same thing, but used for power saving, basically changing the screens refresh rate on the fly.
 
melmac said:
No, because they don't have the necessary hardware controller. It's why Nvidia won't be supporting adaptive sync, at least for the moment, because of none of their cards have the hardware needed.
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That is quite an assumption.

Not saying it is correct or not, but we have no idea of what the Nvidia hardware in their cards is capable of, Adaptive Sync compatibility might very well be incorporated into Nvidia cards, especially seeing as this technology started out as a laptop power saving feature.
Now whether Nvidia will add functionality to their drivers is another matter, as surely this would harm their Gsync product.
 
melmac said:
Why? He is right, this tech has been part of eDP spec for a few years now. It's been used by AMD and Intel in laptops and APUs. Its why older GCN APUs support adaptive sync while the discrete cards don't.

It's the exact same thing, but used for power saving, basically changing the screens refresh rate on the fly.
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So you really think that there is no software needed, you just plug it in and it works.

When Nvidia showed off GSync, Somebody at AMD probably thought, hold on we could do the same thing with the eDP power saving features in certain screens, all we need is to write the software to make it work. because our hardware is already compatible.


Or do you think that there is no software needed. and these new drivers that are being launched on Tuesday are just a empty zip file. :rolleyes:
 
bru said:
That is quite an assumption.

Not saying it is correct or not, but we have no idea of what the Nvidia hardware in their cards is capable of, Adaptive Sync compatibility might very well be incorporated into Nvidia cards, especially seeing as this technology started out as a laptop power saving feature.
Now whether Nvidia will add functionality to their drivers is another matter, as surely this would harm their Gsync product.
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It's not an assumption. It's simple deduction. It's not controller that would have been ever needed before in a discrete graphics card. I could write a ton of reasons why, but the biggest is, why would Nvidia go all the trouble of developing Gsync (which is basically the hardware controller on the monitor) if they already had the hardware controller on their cards?

And about Nvidia supporting adaptive sync, I can't see why they wouldn't, I mean they are on the board of directors of VESA, so why wouldn't they support it?
 
bru said:
So you really think that there is no software needed, you just plug it in and it works.

When Nvidia showed off GSync, Somebody at AMD probably thought, hold on we could do the same thing with the eDP power saving features in certain screens, all we need is to write the software to make it work. because our hardware is already compatible.


Or do you think that there is no software needed. and these new drivers that are being launched on Tuesday are just a empty zip file. :rolleyes:
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What the hell are you on about? Where did I say there was no software needed? What do you think the "freesync" drivers are going to be?

AMD have already laid the groundwork, they have been using variable refresh rates for a few years now on their APUs and Laptops. How do you think the demonstration was done?

Again point out to me where I said no software would be needed?
 
I thought AMD (or someone) said that some existing monitors already support Adaptive Sync but would need a firmware flash?

If that's the case, why is it taking until January for those manufacturers to flash the firmware of their current production run and put a sticker on the box?
 
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