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AMD FX Overclocking

I fail to see what a z97 mb ...which both have shown to have minimum/negligible performance difference for most users.
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The recommended combos of yours will also increase someones budget from £182 (970 Gigabyte + 8320e) to over £250+ (based the i5 with the lowest priced z97 MBs which seems to negate some of the extra perks you are claiming you will get going intel.) The extra's a x99 offers also comes at the cost of even more expense.

This has been stated before and debunked in other threads which ended up with knickers in a twist, I am similar to this in opinion though scurbag.

Going intel is sensible dependant on what you want/need and the overall budget. Fluffing up the expense to disguise longevity or performance gains normally gets topics like this wayward. Low budget the FX is perfectly fine, if you can stretch the extra £100 then go intel.

If you buy an FX right now it will still last you for another 2-3 years. Its not like tomorrow it will flop and need skipping.. :rolleyes:

Its a significant increase and it could be argued that the extra expense would be better put towards a better GPU for gaming.

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This has been stated before and debunked in other threads which ended up with knickers in a twist, I am similar to this in opinion though scurbag.

Going intel is sensible dependant on what you want/need and the overall budget. Fluffing up the expense to disguise longevity or performance gains normally gets topics like this wayward. Low budget the FX is perfectly fine, if you can stretch the extra £100 then go intel.

If you buy an FX right now it will still last you for another 2-3 years. Its not like tomorrow it will flop and need skipping.. :rolleyes:



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It better not! This is my first ever build and I'm hoping the 8320e, 8350, 8370e (whatever I finally decide upon!) will last me for at least 5 years! My Phenom has upon till now :D
 
I have intel system and its no fun to really play with. I have am3+ system; but one of the first gen 990X which seriously has limited OC.

I'd have to spend about double to get something that will work like AMD's specially since I do a lot of virtualation :D

Don't get me wrong Intel's got some nice cpus; but not for what I want to do...
 
This is my first ever build and I'm hoping the 8320e, 8350, 8370e (whatever I finally decide upon!) will last me for at least 5 years! My Phenom has upon till now :D

The 8320E is the smartest choice IMO, the 8370E would be my second (but its a fair bit more for "better" binned) and I wouldn't even consider the 8350 due to it being the same price. You can't really go far wrong with any though!
 
I have intel system and its no fun to really play with. I have am3+ system; but one of the first gen 990X which seriously has limited OC.

I'd have to spend about double to get something that will work like AMD's specially since I do a lot of virtualation :D

Don't get me wrong Intel's got some nice cpus; but not for what I want to do...

Overclocking AMD cpu's is fun, something feels good about getting a processor to 5Ghz and beyond. :D

The 8320E is the smartest choice IMO, the 8370E would be my second (but its a fair bit more for "better" binned) and I wouldn't even consider the 8350 due to it being the same price. You can't really go far wrong with any though!

Good advice. :)
 
+2 on the [E] series CPU's, i had an FX-8350, it would do 4.5Ghz fairly easily, from there to 4.6Ghz it would need a bucket load of extra volts, from about 1.38v to 1.48v, with that came big power draw and heat.

I have since upgraded it to a 9590 which easily runs at 4.8Ghz (all 8 24/7) on the same volts and a less heat.

The [E] series chips seem even better doing 5Ghz on those volts and heat output.

I think the processing has got better and better as time passed, first the original 8320 / 8350, later the 9370 / 9590 with improved processing, and now the [E] series with further improvements.

Those are now rocking over 5Ghz with ease. :)
 
+2 on the [E] series CPU's, i had an FX-8350, it would do 4.5Ghz fairly easily, from there to 4.6Ghz it would need a bucket load of extra volts, from about 1.38v to 1.48v, with that came big power draw and heat.

I have since upgraded it to a 9590 which easily runs at 4.8Ghz (all 8 24/7) on the same volts and a less heat.

The [E] series chips seem even better doing 5Ghz on those volts and heat output.

I think the processing has got better and better as time passed, first the original 8320 / 8350, later the 9370 / 9590 with improved processing, and now the [E] series with further improvements.

Those are now rocking over 5Ghz with ease. :)

I bought my 8320 back in 2012 before they started this binning, mine seems to be a pretty good one thankfully. :D

At 4.8Ghz here on 1.428v which is pretty good.

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I fail to see what a z97 mb (that you are recommending, seemingly based of the logic that AMDs MBs are dated) offers over the recommended 970's and 990's except for PCIE config and memory, which both have shown to have minimum/negligible performance difference for most users. The m.2 slot is nice, but that requires more expense again.

The recommended combos of yours will also increase someones budget from £182 (970 Gigabyte + 8320e) to over £250+ (based the i5 with the lowest priced z97 MBs which seems to negate some of the extra perks you are claiming you will get going intel.) The extra's a x99 offers also comes at the cost of even more expense.
Its a significant increase and it could be argued that the extra expense would be better put towards a better GPU for gaming.

I'm not trying to have an argument as it just my opinion and if I am missing what extra intel offers, please do explain. MB tech could very well become a very good reason to swap or go intel when x99 and ddr4 comes down in price, at the moment though, the only real reason I can see to go intel is for increased performance but at the cost of added expense, which is a perfectly valid reason for most people anyway, just not people on a tighter budget.

All hope on Zen being good, least it appears it will have the funding.

It's just about the extra performance a I5 would give you in games, compared to an AMD chip.

Even when overclocked to 4.7Ghz+, they are still slower than an I5 at stock.

See below as an example:

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The top AMD CPU is an FX 9590 - which is running at 4.7Ghz. It's an identical CPU to the FX8320 - just with a higher stock speed.

FX9590 has a listed TDP of 220W, so it's safe to say that those overclocking their CPU's to 4.8Ghz or even 5.0Ghz are using at least 220W, most likely more.

That's a very hot CPU consuming a lot of power.

The alternative? I5 4670K, which is considerably faster in games than a 4.7Ghz+ overclocked FX chip. It has a TDP of just 84W, will run much cooler also (at stock, vs heavily overclocked FX).

Bear in mind that you can also overclock the I5 if you want to, which would give it even more of a performance advantage, though the temperatures and TDP would obviously increase from stock.

Also, the graph only shows the I5- 4670k, which is an older model. The I5 4690k is now available, which would be a few fps faster than it's predecessor (88W TDP, small increase from the 84W of the 4670k)

My point is, if someone is buying a new CPU/Motherboard today for gaming, then it's extremely worthwhile to save the extra £70 or £80 for a I5, as you'll get a much faster CPU in games, up to date motherboard technologies, cooler running and quieter system.

If someone really can't or doesn't want to spend the extra £70 then the AMD setup is viable, though I'd still recommend they just saveup for the I5.
 
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I still dont get your point, most people in this thread already have an AMD processor and want to overclock it, this thread is full of useful information and its annoying having to skip though bashing posts to find and read the useful stuff, my 8350 is over 12 months old and I have no intention of swapping it out any time soon due to the cost for gain not being worth it
 
Evening Dave2150,

I think we all see your point, but I think you may be missing the main point, this is an AMD FX overclocking thread and perhaps your valid point isn't really relevant in here.

I myself have just bought a FX chip and board to get back into overclocking.
I'll not be selling up my Intel gaming rig, but.....

Sometimes chasing the 'almost as good' for less money is part of the fun.

It also gives others who can't afford the extra money, however trivial it may seem, the opportunity to learn and get close enough for them.
 
Guys, I think I may have posted in this thread before (but got no response).

I've got an ASUS Sabertooth 990fx (Rev1) and an 8320e and a good cooler.

Can anyone advise me on some failsafe settings (for a relative noob) to clock it some? I tried before but was getting lockups playing BF4, so assumed I took it too far, or did not do it correctly.

I am just running a single fan on the cooler at the moment but bought two second hand Akasa Pirhana fans, which am planning on fitting to the cooler tomorrow to give me a bit more cooling performance, so would love to be able to get some decent clocks.
 
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Even when overclocked to 4.7Ghz+, they are still slower than an I5 at stock.
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This I'm afraid I cannot believe. I won't go to the trouble of finding benchmarks to counter this as I am sure it is already a biased horrific example of a proper comparison benchmark.

Just throw in a handbreak rip or the cinebench to see how they outperform i5's especially stock ones!

Also you keep mentioning the TDP which many people on here do not understand. As soon as you overclock (even an intel) your TDP references go out of the window!

My last point as I grow tired of these pompous intel posts, you always use the 9590 as a tool to prove a point. Savvy users will pick up the new 8320E and overclock it to speeds as close to 5Ghz as they can push. For a £100 price tag this cannot be beaten by any intel offering. The price/performance of this combination is a great budget solution. If people are willing to pay for the higher binned models or crazy enough to get the 9590 then that is their choice (where I would switch over to an intel for that price point - i.e. an increase in budget of £100+).
 
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I still dont get your point, most people in this thread already have an AMD processor and want to overclock it, this thread is full of useful information and its annoying having to skip though bashing posts to find and read the useful stuff

Evening Dave2150,

I think we all see your point, but I think you may be missing the main point, this is an AMD FX overclocking thread and perhaps your valid point isn't really relevant in here.

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Guys, I think I may have posted in this thread before (but got no response).

I've got an ASUS Sabertooth 990fx (Rev1) and an 8320e and a good cooler.

Can anyone advise me on some failsafe settings (for a relative noob) to clock it some? I tried before but was getting lockups playing BF4, so assumed I took it too far, or did not do it correctly.

I am just running a single fan on the cooler at the moment but bought two second hand Akasa Pirhana fans, which am planning on fitting to the cooler tomorrow to give me a bit more cooling performance, so would love to be able to get some decent clocks.

Try setting voltage to manual and set it to 1.38

Set clock to 4.5Ghz using multiplier

Load Line Calibration (LLC) on "Very High" and Turn off Cool n' quiet and C1E.

That should be easily achievable on that chip.
 
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Try setting voltage to manual and set it to 1.38

Set clock to 4.5Ghz using multiplier

Load Line Calibration (LLC) on "Very High" and Turn off Cool n' quiet and C1E.

That should be easily achievable on that chip.

Why do you amd people always insist on turning off c1e and cool and quiet?
Why manually input voltage when you can use offset voltage overclocking?
 
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