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AMD has decided to extend the life of AM3 + platform.
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That slide looks fake, is fake and has incorrect information on it (says Zambezi IMC is natively DDR3-1600 when it's in fact 1866).
I.E. The whole article is most probably ********.
What we know from the previous (genuine) AMD slide suggesting a late Q2 launch of FM2 & (10 core not 8 core) Komodo should still be taken as what will happen.
Also, given that the 7xxx AMD Radeon cards will be PCI-e 3.0 compatible, according to reports, I somehow doubt it's going to take them over 12 months to launch a platform able to accommodate 3.0 (even if it's totally useless until 8xxx / 9xxx / quad-CF).
I.E. The whole article is most probably ********.
What we know from the previous (genuine) AMD slide suggesting a late Q2 launch of FM2 & (10 core not 8 core) Komodo should still be taken as what will happen.
Also, given that the 7xxx AMD Radeon cards will be PCI-e 3.0 compatible, according to reports, I somehow doubt it's going to take them over 12 months to launch a platform able to accommodate 3.0 (even if it's totally useless until 8xxx / 9xxx / quad-CF).
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i'm not sure if it's fake or not. the slide as a mistake (says Zambezi is 3-1600 ). but in the article it says
it just make sense for amd to extend the life of AM3+,
i really can't see FM2 BD being released till q4 2012 or most likely q1-q2 2013
it just make sense for amd to extend the life of AM3+,
i really can't see FM2 BD being released till q4 2012 or most likely q1-q2 2013
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Why?
The talk is BD is crippled for AM3+, but we don't know how Zambezi will perform till launch, possibly in the next 16 days (I'm doubting it will be September the 19th)
Though, I too can't see FM2 coming out Q1 or Q2 next year, that's wayyyy too short for AM3+.
Maybe AM3+ will last a while, but without Komodo, but that's just halting progression.
And I'm going to call fake on that crap.
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What's the BD on AM3+ being crippled stuff?
Google search only brings up this forum with a result, so I'm hoping there's some sort of conclusive report elsewhere?
Google search only brings up this forum with a result, so I'm hoping there's some sort of conclusive report elsewhere?
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I'm only going off what has been the rumour.
Which is why I said wait till launch for performance.
But given how fast they wanted Komodo out, it made sense.
amd can change the the date at any time... slides arejust a outline time schedule..
if PCI-e 3.0 was so important it would have been on the 900 platform. because i've heard 7000 series will be out soon
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Of course advancement is important.
What native support for SATA 3/USB 3 does 990FX give?
@ Wannabedammed,
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=19884891&postcount=3306
It's not just me saying it, or Zoomee etc.
thats just rumours tho , we don't know for sure..
also i highly doubt amd would release AM3+ BD then release FM2 3 months later
it native supports sata 3
but amd as clearly said it wasn't maintain backwards compatability with AM3
It makes no sense that they would cripple BD to fit in an AM3 socket, they already said they wont officially support it.
They brought in a new socket and chipset(Even though its nigh on identical to the previous, but still) so if the AM3+ socket crippled it so much they would just have released on a totally new socket, being as new socket (AM3+) is a new socket anyway.
I've seen none of the "widely reported" articles at all, the only thing I saw mentioning BD being crippled in new boards was when the original Bioses for the new AM3+ boards werent working great with the new CPUs.
To be honest nobody has a clue, so other peoples agendas who are saying this really need to be looked at first before believing them. It could be true, but it would be a dumb move for sure from AMD.
Can just see the press releases now
"Er yeah we introduced a new socket but we crippled performance anyway so we could support something we said we wouldnt support anyway"
Makes sense much?
They brought in a new socket and chipset(Even though its nigh on identical to the previous, but still) so if the AM3+ socket crippled it so much they would just have released on a totally new socket, being as new socket (AM3+) is a new socket anyway.
I've seen none of the "widely reported" articles at all, the only thing I saw mentioning BD being crippled in new boards was when the original Bioses for the new AM3+ boards werent working great with the new CPUs.
To be honest nobody has a clue, so other peoples agendas who are saying this really need to be looked at first before believing them. It could be true, but it would be a dumb move for sure from AMD.
Can just see the press releases now
"Er yeah we introduced a new socket but we crippled performance anyway so we could support something we said we wouldnt support anyway"
Makes sense much?
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indeed it does, its supported by the board manufacturers, but not AMD themselves.
They're basically saying, If it works. Good for you! if not, Tough ****
And you think it is pure coincidence that AMD just happened to design a complete new CPU architecture that also just happens to work on AM3 as well as AM3+?
Edit: From what I can remember it was an interview with a named AMD engineer where he stated that they had to make design sacrifices to Bulldozer to ensure that AM3 was forwards compatible with AM3+.
may work but maybe with performance hit or less features or not as overclockable
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Probably not but what would they gain by not fetcing in a new socket at this opportunity if not doing so meant crippling their new products?
They said they wouldnt officially support it.
They brought in a supposedly new socket and chipset?
So at this point a whole new totally redesigned socket would have been no problem for MB manufacturers or AMD, infact board partners would probably have been happier.
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Right I can see where you're coming from now, and that does make sense. From the get go they've hurt themselves then. Inorder to keep compatibility they've left themselves specific design routes and rules to follow. Which means they didnt have the freedom they would have at the design phase if they had designed the BD and Socket together, scrapping AM3 compatibility completely.
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If thats the case it would be a pretty dumb move to be honest, they want to sell more of the new chipset, board manufacturers want an excuse to sell new boards to people with existing boards, would they not both have pushed for a totally new redesign if both parties would benefit more.
Saying that sillier things have been done so it wouldnt be unheard of, just not seen any of these widely reported things that its the case though.
Unless people are getting AM3 and AM3+ confused.
Ah I think I remember the interview now Jokester, if its the one I'm thinking of, he said if they wanted to make it totally AM3 backwards compatible they would have had to make design sacrifices, however its not officially backwards compatible (Even though everythings near enough identical) so that's why they didn't make them sacrifices, thus no official AM3 support for BD.
Unless your talking about the disgruntled engineer that kind of got debunked due to spouting negative crap around forums for years.
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It's actually a pretty shrewd move by AMD as it keeps people tied in to their hardware if they're only looking to upgrade a CPU or MB, as it removes Intel from the equation. Otherwise a brand new socket means they have to get a new CPU and MB and they then have a choice of getting an Intel based system or an AMD based system.