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AMD has decided to extend the life of AM3 + platform.

It's possible that the performance and power efficiency sacrifices they've made by using AM3+ instead of going straight to FM2 aren't as huge as they first thought, so they're just gonna keep AM3+ for Komodo.

Of course, it's also possible that all of this is just complete BS.
 
DragonQ said:
It's possible that the performance and power efficiency sacrifices they've made by using AM3+ instead of going straight to FM2 aren't as huge as they first thought, so they're just gonna keep AM3+ for Komodo.

Of course, it's also possible that all of this is just complete BS.
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That's my thinking on this.
 
DragonQ said:
It's possible that the performance and power efficiency sacrifices they've made by using AM3+ instead of going straight to FM2 aren't as huge as they first thought, so they're just gonna keep AM3+ for Komodo.

Of course, it's also possible that all of this is just complete BS.
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that maybe the case.

but thats way in the future tbh.

let's get Zambezi out and see how it's does.
 
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To be fair, it's too far away to speculate.

But AMD have already launched FM1 in the form on Llano, and then the to be released Trinity.
So progression dictates a new socket ; FM2.

But I'm taking guesses here.

We'll know more in 2012.
And I agree with you there Gareth, lets see Zambezi first.

Anyways, night people, I'm shattered.


EDIT : If AM3+'s life DOES get extended. It certainly needs a new chipset with NATIVE USB 3.0 and PCI-E 3 support.
 
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gareth170 said:
the point some of us are making, yes BD may work in some am3 boards, but it doesn't mean it will give all the performance/give all features has with am3+ boards.
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Which that possibility is ignored by the people making that point as if that doesn't matter.
 
Final8y said:
Which that possibility is ignored by the people making that point as if that doesn't matter.
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Because there's no evidence either way, you'd have to wait for launch to gauge between a CH IV and a CH V using the exact same chip, and it could be down to the chipset giving the gains. Not the socket.
 
Martini1991 said:
Because there's no evidence either way, you'd have to wait for launch to gauge between a CH IV and a CH V using the exact same chip, and it could be down to the chipset giving the gains. Not the socket.
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But there is good reason to assume that it will because we were not born yesterday and looking back at history shows that there is nearly always a difference.

And its not the point of no evidence to show either way but the fact the possibility is just flat out ignored when its brought up.
 
Final8y said:
But there is good reason to assume that it will because we were not born yesterday and looking back at history shows that there is nearly always a difference.

And its not the point of no evidence to show either way but the fact the possibility is just flat out ignored when its brought up.
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It's dismissed because there's no evidence.
We fully understand there could be a difference in IPC performance from AM3 to AM3+, or maybe an overclocking difference.

But without the evidence, it's all guess work and opinions.

EDIT : What history? Are you talking Phenom II on AM2+ then AM3? It's kind of different, AM3 brought in DDR3 support, and was a fairly substantial difference due to it being quite a change, rather than an expansion in the socket (AM2-AM2+, AM3-AM3+).
 
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Martini1991 said:
It's dismissed because there's no evidence.
We fully understand there could be a difference in IPC performance from AM3 to AM3+, or maybe an overclocking difference.

But without the evidence, it's all guess work and opinions.
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I don't know what world you live in but when history shows the likelihood then its taken into consideration.

I don't have to prove everyday that i can do my job and that's because of my past/history and even when im give jobs that i have never done before, the assumption if that get the job done even though there is no proof that i will.

And by the same token of your dismissal on your own logic that i don't share, most of what you said should be dismissed & most talk about future products because there is no proof either way.
 
Look at the two links.
Phenom II 940 and Phenom II 945 perform the same.

Different sockets.
History is on my side of BD performing the same on AM3 and AM3+.
 
Martini1991 said:
The Phenom II 940 and Phenom II 945 perform practically identical anyways. Within the margin of error, or memory improvements through DDR3.

History proves you wrong.
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Martini1991 said:
Look at the two links.
Phenom II 940 and Phenom II 945 perform the same.

Different sockets.
History is on my side of BD performing the same on AM3 and AM3+.
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Im talking about the full feature set & not specifically IPC.

Again pedantic from you.

And you ignored that i said nearly always just so that you could post that.
 
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Final8y said:
Again pedantic from you.

And you ignored that i said nearly always just so that you could post that.
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Evidence shown, and you bring up "Pedantic". :p
As far as I know, I've never said BD won't have more features on AM3+, though that's only the power stuff. It doesn't cook or clean now does it :p?
 
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Martini1991 said:
Evidence shown, and you bring up "Pedantic". :p
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If i had said history had always shown improvements then you would be correct but i didn't & your on the verge of going through your semantic routine again as well as being Pedantic with the finding of exceptions to the rule which i had already taken into account by saying nearly always.
 
Final8y said:
If i had said history had always shown improvements then you would be correct but i didn't & your on the verge of going through your semantic routine again as well as being Pedantic with the finding exceptions to the rule which i had already taken into account by saying nearly always.
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I didn't search to find an exception for the rule.
I literally just took two reviews and showed you them.

I asked what history you're talking about, you dismissed it completely.
At the top of my head the Phenom II is the only piece of history that is the same as the BD situation.

You're just defending a product without reasoning.
 
Martini1991 said:
1)I didn't search to find an exception for the rule.
I literally just took two reviews and showed you them.


2)I asked what history you're talking about, you dismissed it completely.
At the top of my head the Phenom II is the only piece of history that is the same as the BD situation.

You're just defending a product without reasoning.
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1) Pure pedantic again.

2) You didn't ask & i was not being specific & and I'm not going to into semantics with you.

Its not the product at all that im defending but its how you going about attacking & moving the goal posts when ever it suits you.
 
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