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AMD Launches Three Kaveri APU SKUs in February 2014 – Feature Set For A10 and A8 APUs Detailed

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The FX8320 sorry but no hinting and with a Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P or Asus M5A97 Evo R2.0 for around £70 should make a nice little setup. OTH,an FX6300 and a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO would cost around the same.
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Gigabyte have released an MATX AM3+ board with a VRM cooler.

GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 Motherboard Phenom II AMD Athlon II Socket AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX RAID Gigabit Ethernet (rev. 4.1)

Note it has to be the rev 4.1. Why? look at this picture...



See the VRM cooler? my mate has a 8320 in one @ 4.3ghz, no problems with throttling.

£41.. Finally a somewhat decent AM3+ MATX board that can hold a clock without throttling.. All Gigabyte have done is take one of their ugly blue MATX AM3+ boards, given it a splash of black and grey and add a VRM cooler. Hopefully more board makers will follow suit, as it gives AM3+ a whole new legitimacy.
 
Martini1991 said:
I edited, but an i3 Haswell in say Cinebench would outbench a single core of your average 4.8GHZ FX4300.
This is my stock clock (Turbo) single threaded result ; http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae22/PrimalAir/4770Ksinglecore.png

Look at Cat's Ivy result at 3.4 ; http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25272063&postcount=245

And this i3 comes in at 3.4 ; http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-492-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=567

So it's FPU improvement is about 10%, and then you're beating a 5GHZ PD core in FPU.

Haswell's got a fair improvement in FPU performance

Not that I'd buy either.

You'd buy an FX6300 every time.
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I said you can get the 4 core AMD to match the i3 in single threaded performance.

Cat's i3 scored 118, nKata's 8320 score 121 @ 5Ghz in single threaded.
 
humbug said:
I said you can get the 4 core AMD to match the i3 in single threaded performance.

Cat's i3 scored 118, nKata's 8320 score 121 @ 5Ghz in single threaded.
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They're similar, but the i3's still faster (Cat's running Ivy, so Haswell will be about 10% faster, and 5GHZ isn't the average clock, it's more like 4.8GHZ)

It comes close, but it's not there.

Unless we're comparing EOL i3's now?
 
Martini1991 said:
They're similar, but the i3's still faster (Cat's running Ivy, so Haswell will be about 10% faster, and 5GHZ isn't the average clock, it's more like 4.8GHZ)

It comes close, but it's not there.

Unless we're comparing EOL i3's now?
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Your just arguing semantics now for the sake of argument, i said it could be made to match the i3 in single threaded performance, and your talking about small margins, a few percent margins of error.

Is it so important to you you have to go on to whittle it down to the finest pin point, "look i'm right its an error margin faster"

Good Grief just calm down with that, its insane.

Besides all that, we don't know what the performance of Kaveri is yet, what if its 10 or 20% faster.
 
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The difference will be near 10%, since when has 10% been matching? And that's not margin of error.
That's not arguing semantics.

Buy a Haswell i3 and an FX4300, run it at 4.8GHZ and prove me wrong.
A 4.8GHZ 4300 probably has nigh on the same (Within 1% really) of the Ivy i3, as is evident by Cat's benchmark (So your talk of matching would apply to an i3 Ivy)

But the Haswell brings in FPU improvements, which will be around 10%.

EDIT : And now you're changing things to Kaveri, which is a different story.
 
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Its a Kevari thread. ^^^

Martini1991 said:
The difference will be near 10%, since when has 10% been matching? And that's not margin of error.
That's not arguing semantics.

Buy a Haswell i3 and an FX4300, run it at 4.8GHZ and prove me wrong.
A 4.8GHZ 4300 probably has nigh on the same (Within 1-2%) of the Ivy i3, as is evident by Cat's benchmark.

But the Haswell brings in FPU improvements, which will be say 10%.
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10% best case, You are being pedantic and argumentative. why can't you just let things be instead of applying so much energy into trying to prove what people are saying is wrong when it really isn't that far out even if they are.
 
Stop being wrong then ;)
It's a Kaveri thread, but you weren't on about Kaveri, given you know, it's an unknown quantity right now, and for all we know Kaveri clocks like crap currently etc.

stulid said:
1080P gaming is out of the question.
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That's somewhat disappointing, although people try and game at 1080p with trinity now?
 
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stulid said:
1080P gaming is out of the question.
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Ah well, was gonna pick one of these up for the kids PC but I'll skip the 7850K at launch then, and they can stick with their 5800K until a refresh or something, hopefully their will be more Kaveri chips later on... If not I'll wait for the next, next gen of APU :p
 
ALXAndy said:
Gigabyte have released an MATX AM3+ board with a VRM cooler.

GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 Motherboard Phenom II AMD Athlon II Socket AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX RAID Gigabit Ethernet (rev. 4.1)

Note it has to be the rev 4.1. Why? look at this picture...



See the VRM cooler? my mate has a 8320 in one @ 4.3ghz, no problems with throttling.

£41.. Finally a somewhat decent AM3+ MATX board that can hold a clock without throttling.. All Gigabyte have done is take one of their ugly blue MATX AM3+ boards, given it a splash of black and grey and add a VRM cooler. Hopefully more board makers will follow suit, as it gives AM3+ a whole new legitimacy.
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Rev 5 has apm mode rev 4 doesnt. I just bought one heres my thread http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7609200#powwwst7609200
 
I have been aware of that motherboard ALXAndy for a while,and even the previous blue PCB version had VRM heatsinks. The only thing is that it is an older chipset.

Also,Martini1991 and Humbug,I have a Xeon E3 1220. Its a SB based quad core CPU.Basically it is a Core i5 2400 with 8MB of L3 cache instead of 6MB,no IGP and support for ECC RAM.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I have been aware of that motherboard ALXAndy for a while,and even the previous blue PCB version had VRM heatsinks. The only thing is that it is an older chipset.

Also,Martini1991 and Humbug,I have a Xeon E3 1220. Its a SB based quad core CPU.Basically it is a Core i5 2400 with 8MB of L3 cache instead of 6MB,no IGP and support for ECC RAM.
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I thought it was an Ivy.

Well that further proves my point, it's not the same, it's going to be a good ~15% off almost then?

An FX4300 at 4.8GHZ against a 3.4GHZ Haswell for example?

And calling ~15% as matching is stretching a bit, not pedantic at all :p
 
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