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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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Nablaoperator said:
Now what'd you have done if the cheapest upgrade option was $1699, looked at past performance charts and wasted 2 more years (of your finite life) with lower perf? Do those past generational change metrics even matter.
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It's actually simpler than that:

What can I do with $1699?

I will spare typing out a long list, but "Turn up dynamic shadows and detailed grass in Project Cars 2." would finish near the bottom of that list.

And why stop at $1699? If you are not going to use past experience as a point of reference, just pay $5000 for a 30% improvement. Life is short right?

The 2080T's performance was simply never worth the asking price to me. (and apparently a lot of other people too)

-You also pretty much acknowledged that you would consider the 3090 a better value if Nvidia raised the price of the 3080 closer to the 3090. smh
 
Twinz said:
I will spare typing out a long list, but "Turn up dynamic shadows and detailed grass in Project Cars 2." would finish near the bottom of that list.
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This is so true it's just damn tragic. I've only recently learned this lesson whilst trying to run AAA games at 4k/144hz with a 5700XT. Minor detail is over-rated ;) :)
 
pugheaven said:
You can in the way they've not been spouting crap like nVidia, they've not got any news so didn't just make up a load of rubbish... nvidia talked and released and actually has caused problems. It used to be AMD got slated for not being ready or lying or whatever, now they'r ebeing quiet until they're actually ready and we can't give them credit for being more professional? I believe we can, I think everything they've done upto now with Big Navi is exactly right... let nVidia mess their release up, not rush their own... and hey presto... we shall see if this was the right approach but i've never had any problem wqaiting for them to realse and 28th it is, perfectl fine waiting even if others demand information for the past 2 months.
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I deserve credit for not stealing anyone's car today and not lying to my sister and not making a false police report. It's just not a rational way to allocate credit imho. When AMD deliver a great product without a load of inaccurate hype ('poor Volta', 'overclockers dream' etc) at a competitive price THEN they'll deserve credit. Without the end product silence could mean (I'm not suggesting it does) absolutely anything. Here's hoping they're keeping their powder dry and keeping quiet for a good reason and they have a fantastic product they don't want to forewarn Nvidia about until it's deliverable.
 
Your logic is convoluted.. let's do a recap

Twinz said:
What can I do with $1699?

I will spare typing out a long list, but "Turn up dynamic shadows and detailed grass in Project Cars 2." would finish near the bottom of that list.
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Nablaoperator said:
What's the price vs time trade-off (example, $$$ spent vs time lost not enjoying the upgrade)
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So you are saying that the utility of those $$$ is much higher than time lost not enjoying the upgrade... so you don't do the upgrade and decide to wait out.. fair enough.

can't be relying on hideous historical metrics for decision making..i worked out that specific example cuz I thought you're desperate for an upgrade.. and I thought that implied pc gaming is your primary hobby.

It's somewhat similar to the sunk cost bias.. where folks hangon to depreciated holdings just because they had purchased it at a higher price.

I don't know if you are visiting Nvidia's website these days but check out the platforms tab.. gamers probably won't be relevant in the next decade or so
 
Stu999 said:
The Team Red vs Team Green stuff is bad enough as it is, lets not do Red vs Blue as well.
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No intention of political debate..we were just speculating if more enterprising billionaires would enter the discrete graphics card market.. now that we are looking at atleast 4 mainstream options in the next few years (AMD, Nvidia, Intel, imagination)
 
Nablaoperator said:
No intention of political debate..we were just speculating if more enterprising billionaires would enter the discrete graphics card market.. now that we are looking at atleast 4 mainstream options in the next few years (AMD, Nvidia, Intel, imagination)
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I think you're referring to the Facebook GPU? Renders so fast you don't see all your data vanishing :)
 
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