If the firmware stuff that was leaked is legit there were two profiles 230 watt and 250 watt and I assume they are the graphics core and not total board but I have no idea on that. Suggests to me they only have two products on the top tier core or very close derivatives if there are more.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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If the firmware stuff that was leaked is legit there were two profiles 230 watt and 250 watt and I assume they are the graphics core and not total board but I have no idea on that. Suggests to me they only have two products on the top tier core or very close derivatives if there are more.
Don't knock it, it's rumoured to soon be part of the National Curriculum (ref wccftech)what absolute drivel.
Like hambugs napkin maths.
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Dont want to go too much off topic here LePhurroni, seeing as this is a navi thread not xbox thread.
But i will say this, a modified XSX Microsoft demo designed to promote their new gaming console aint going to cut any mustard here, whatever setting they used.
Get back to me when it runs something other than ported game so we can have real data to compare it to. Till then its nothing more than advert for their new console with streamed line code slapped on.
If the recently rumoured 320W+ are true, that seems perfectly reasonable. I'd expect AIBs to be releasing 3 slot or close to cards.
AMD confirmed something on twitter about it but I can't find it quickly.
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Whatever pal, whatever. Not sure "we put the Xbox demo together in 2 weeks" counts as "streamlined code", but whatever floats your boat.
Yes misstating what DF said is a lie (or a mistake).
Funny how in this thread when people do the same but to the detriment of AMD they don't get that benefit of the doubt.
Note that it turns out to be a 2080 AMD fanboys are on the backfoot again trying to caveat DF's statement (not necessarily you though).
How quickly do you think game ready drivers are released on PC? PCs don't get streamlined code for each GPU. If anything it's more of a valid comparison. Consoles otherwise outperform the hardware they have.
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Yes, the 255W TGP was debunked in favour of an actual 300W TBP.
It's not really debunked. TGP is the chip power you would see in GPU-Z and software monitoring.
It was mentioned several times when that number came out earlier in the thread. It was logical that this number would leak. However, as is par for this thread, it was ignored for a more favourable interpretation.
Usually the way around that is to put multiple dies on a wafer with a small number of larger and larger number of smaller dies - but the AMD 7nm wafers I've seen so far have been all one product (not necessarily the same model) which I found a little surprising.
I think people are going to be disappointed this round if they expect AMD to be disruptive on pricing TBH unless they've pulled out quite a feat of engineering they are likely going to slot into nVidia pricing given the costs and the disparity vs Zen3 production.
EDIT: On the subject of MCM though not entirely relevant to this thread:
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1318781796360675330
I mentioned it earlier in the thread if it was TGP there would be additional wattage to add (TBP).
As you say, unfortunately it started a mini hype train here and elsewhere on the net.
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It is not just chip/socket power..
its basically chip+gddr6 power
which patrick clarified later
so i would be adding few 10's of watts above it possibly 30w
however, igor puts TBP at 320-355W for navi 21 xt which requires ton of salt.. i will believe it when i see it
Decisions like those have to factor capital deployment and return metrics, other than the fact that you cant just be dumping the most profitable product in excess of market demand.. part of the reason why Intel would be making the HPG line of GPUs on TSMC 6nm instead of allocating capacity inhouse.
Infact the capital deployed in GPU biz is lot lower than CPUs cuz you can push the inventory much faster to AIBs than directly to distributors
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Im sure I read they were a week behind schedule somewhere, so lets say they were planning on a release before consoles, it looks likely to be the week after now as they wouldnt want to clash?
You also get an influx of new, low post count, users around that time as well. Some of them are almost certainly dupes of existing longer term members from a general observation of posting styles :s
Maybe because these people are real customers and use the forums to pass the time while waiting for delivery?
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