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*** AMD "Navi 3X" (RDNA 3 discussion thread) ***

Guessing stock AIO cooler for the top-end dual chiplet design. Even on a smaller node, two chips like that right next to each other is going to take a serious cooling solution if they want to push its performance.
 
We will see how it goes but these two dies will be quite big - at least 250 mm^2 and this will effectively be another dual-GPU card like the legacy R9 295X2, HD 7990, HD 6990, etc.

They indeed could have made smaller, real 'chiplets' under 100 mm^2 and make the cards with 4, 5 and/or 6 chiplets.

Now they will still have to design smaller GPUs for the lower tiers.
 
4K8KW10 said:
We will see how it goes but these two dies will be quite big - at least 250 mm^2 and this will effectively be another dual-GPU card like the legacy R9 295X2, HD 7990, HD 6990, etc.

They indeed could have made smaller, real 'chiplets' under 100 mm^2 and make the cards with 4, 5 and/or 6 chiplets.

Now they will still have to design smaller GPUs for the lower tiers.
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Yeah I guess this is really a trial run, only at the top-end kind of product. Then maybe Navi 4x or whatever comes after will start using more finely grained chiplets assuming the concept is proven in the wild with Navi 31.
 
DLSS equivalent tech
5nm euv (lower power consumption and large boost in transistor count)
Most importantly greater availability + ability to produce GPU dies so AMD can actually compete with NV - maybe too optimistic
 
g67575 said:
DLSS equivalent tech
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It is not needed if the cards are fast enough as is.

DLSS is just an official enablement from Nvidia for their image quality - performance optimisation cheating. It's that just they improve it as some people say version 2 is better than version 1.

AMD doesn't need upscaling.
It has never been used in the PC games environment.
 
well, they are investing heavily it in according to some articles. at the moment, the rtx 3060 / ti 3070 can run games at 4k at decent framerates with dlss enabled, obviously that will hurt amd's sales of rx 6000 GPUs.

Also, Sony and Microsoft will want higher framerates on the existing consoles - a dlss equivalent is probably the only way to achieve this. could it be done without special hardware? I'm not sure
 
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g67575 said:
well, they are investing heavily it in according to some articles. at the moment, the rtx 3060 / ti 3070 can run games at 4k with dlss enabled, obviously that will hurt amd's sales of rx 6000 GPUs.
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I can also run some games at 3840x2160 with lowered settings with my Radeon RX 560X 4GB mobile graphics card.

You can lower the settings on any card to boost the frame rate.

DLSS is just that - it lowers the settings.

And as far as it looks like - DirectX 12 doesn't support DLSS as an official standard feature - DLSS is Nvidia's proprietary setting.


g67575 said:
Also, Sony and Microsoft will want higher framerates on the existing consoles - a dlss equivalent is probably the only way to achieve this. could it be done without special hardware? I'm not sure
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Upscaling has been used on the consoles for many years - actually Nvidia stole the idea from the consoles market.
 
Adding more GPU dies to graphics cards will likely make the availability problem worse. I think they will want to address their low rates / yields of GPU dies first.

Add to this that AMD themselves never said that RDNA 3 would utilize MCM tech.

Then, there's additional complexity in creating GPU dies with denser nodes like 5nm EUV.

it would be nice if the rx 6000 series got the dlss like tech... id be inclined to buy one if they did this.
 
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Offs.......................................................after yet another god knows how many pages of waffle, 99% of which will be rubbish, something might be launched.
At some point in 2024 more than 300 people worldwide might be able to buy it.
What really is the point of this sort of thread ?
 
The interesting thing about DLSS 2.0 is it allows 4k gaming on existing hardware - it's not the hardware that needs to improve drastically, its the support of dlss like tech.

the next gen will probably aim at 6/8k gaming with DLSS like tech.
 
kitfit1 said:
At some point in 2024 more than 300 people worldwide might be able to buy it.
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There is a chance the cards will be launched later this year - 2021, or at some point in Q1 2022.
Also, it is likely the global situation will improve by that time and the production will resume as per normal.

Why do you need that trolling?
 
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