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AMD on the road to recovery.

humbug said:
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Remember the Doom and gloom threads like it was the other day. Incredible how fast it turned around like.
Was saying to guys at work I was going to sell my company shares for AMD because of the direct connection with btc mining to gpus which was still in early days picking up steam, plus Zen was around the corner..If those stars aligned the shares were going to explode. Unfortunately I refused to sell my shares at a loss and never done it. Now I regret not going for it.
 
humbug said:
I'm very risk averse, nor am i wealthy. 2 years ago AMD shares sold at under $2. Many regrets.
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I was tempted to buy when very low back in 2014 but at that time didn't have much faith in them making a comeback. I have no regrets however. I ended up buying much higher but at a time I that I felt they had a good future ahead of them. Because I felt they'd do well I was able to invest more than I would have down when they were very low so £ wise they're turning a good profit now. Note that soon after I bought they did go down - think I had a 30-40% loss at one point,or might have been less, but didn't care about that as the reason I bought was still intact.
Knowing when to sell is always difficult.
Historically AMD do well for a time then struggle. Will be interesting this time if they can keep things on the up. Their market cap is only 14% of Nvidia's and even less compared to Intel so will be interesting to see if they can catch up further and then maintain things at that level.
 
I think for as long as AMD don't make another costly mistake like Bulldozer they will grow.

I have always believed that AMD are more capable than Intel, this will see them right, what AMD don't have is money to throw away or room to make mistakes.
 
Intel are stagnating and AMD have them on the run right now. They could catch up a lot more with the EPYC servers alone which utterly destroy the price/performance that Intel are offering. I hope so as I can't be arsed with Intels laziness any more TBH.
 
Lokken86 said:
Intel are stagnating and AMD have them on the run right now. They could catch up a lot more with the EPYC servers alone which utterly destroy the price/performance that Intel are offering. I hope so as I can't be arsed with Intels laziness any more TBH.
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I have an impression that people are getting, bored, tired and annoyed with Intel, that number is increasing, more and more people are starting to see AMD as something more interesting and a real alternative to greying stogy Intel.
 
humbug said:
I have an impression that people are getting, bored, tired and annoyed with Intel, that number is increasing, more and more people are starting to see AMD as something more interesting and a real alternative to greying stogy Intel.
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My college class were all having a discussion about cpus last term. Interestingly, out of the people who built new systems, 4 people had Ryzen either 1600, 1700 or 1800 vs 2 who went for the Intel 8600k and myself. Almost everyone else with an older system had Intel.
 
@humbug hey buddy I got a few questions regarding Ryzen 1st gen. Basically got tempted by the 1700x @ £150 brand new, and potentially will pair the B450 strix ITX. Will Precision Boost Overdrive + offset voltage work? I heard manual overclock doesn't work as efficient as PBO + performance enhancer. Never have any AMD so I'm clueless.
 
BTVA said:
@humbug hey buddy I got a few questions regarding Ryzen 1st gen. Basically got tempted by the 1700x @ £150 brand new, and potentially will pair the B450 strix ITX. Will Precision Boost Overdrive + offset voltage work? I heard manual overclock doesn't work as efficient as PBO + performance enhancer. Never have any AMD so I'm clueless.
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Yes it works, but does the B450I strix has offset voltage?
 
DarrenM343 said:
Lots of different opinions out there of course, but one of mine is that I think AMD struggle to optimise the software to their hardware for whatever reasons, maybe an architecture that's difficult to optimise for, where as NV has pretty optimised drivers from day 1 hence why AMD get more out of theirs over the longer time while NV doesn't. Maybe NV give more thought to the software side of things when they develop the hardware design.
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Don't forget that JHH keep expressing admiration for Apple, so unless under competitive pressure I think Nivdia would prefer to 'nodge' people to upgrade with a bit of planned or unplanned obsolescence in the Apple manner. From Nvidia's point of view all those card with the solder defects a few years ago were not an issue since after 2-3+ years those people were all due to upgrade anyhow!
 
Panos said:
True the driver team had always to keep up, but that made some products like the 290X to survive even today sitting in upper mid range (with full DX12 support), while it's direct competitor the 780Ti (and the Kepler Titans) bitten the dust in performance years now. (even the 1050ti beats it).
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While the launch was handled badly (that cooler and an Nvidia friendly press concentrating solely on that), Hawaii at 438mm² was the last time AMD was able to beat a larger chip (GK110 @ 561mm²). In fact, I keep thinking that with a bit more polish and different layout they could have outsold the 780Ti rather than being forced to sell for far less. Wonder if some bean-counter was focusing too much on area though as a few more mm² here and there might have kept the chip cooler. It was only later with Maxwell and I suppose the partial tile-based approach and stripping out compute that Nvidia has been as far ahead in perf/area as they are.
 
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