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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

humbug said:
Anyone have anything positive to say about AMD's new Console and possible Apple deals?

Everytime someone starts something with something positive RE: AMD it quickly descends into utterly ridiculous negative twisting.

Its like some of those bonkers Seeking Alpha contributors heavily invested in Intel and Nvidia have found their way here.

Winning contracts is never a bad thing.
Yes Bru, it was good news for Nvidia, it was good news for Intel, it is good news for AMD.
Consoles @ $100 to $120 to AMD for every unit MS / Sony sold was good news for AMD, it saved their skin.
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The console revamp is great news. As for the apple renewal i'm apprehensive on this.
My justified reason is that there was a long delay of a year until tonga the m295x (2048 shader) made its way to tge desktop as the 380x. As long as prices are reasonable and there's no priority for apple for a fully enabled gpu, then i'll be looking forward to seeing either of the polaris cards.
 
Davedree said:
The console revamp is great news. As for the apple renewal i'm apprehensive on this.
My justified reason is that there was a long delay of a year until tonga the m295x (2048 shader) made its way to tge desktop as the 380x. As long as prices are reasonable and there's no priority for apple for a fully enabled gpu, then i'll be looking forward to seeing either of the polaris cards.
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Exactly, as I posted above it is all rosy for AMD unless it effects how many GPU's they can put into consumer cards.
I would be astounded if AMD are making $20 profit from each console APU sold, probably more like $5 if there lucky.
 
bru said:
Exactly, as I posted above it is all rosy for AMD unless it effects how many GPU's they can put into consumer cards.
I would be astounded if AMD are making $20 profit from each console APU sold, probably more like $5 if there lucky.
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Didn't realise you stated pretty much exactly the same, sorry bru.
But I concur I don't want to see artificial high pricing and witheld potential performance.
 
LOL "I reckon it's only $5 not 20" - pulled straight from where the sun don't shine ofc.

The $20 figure is from actual research and published info. Plus they expected it to be higher by now.
 
Is that an average $20 average over the lifespan, immediately or 5 years down the line when yields are better?

I actually don't really care about the answer, I'm just really really happy AMD seem to have survived long enough to get these deals through :) I loved my old 9800, then 7950 even if it was a bit warm! I just really wanted to point out that it's not quite as simple as they make x per chip. Can't we all just be happy for AMD right now?

Nox
 
Stanners said:
Couple of mentions of Polaris and Vega within the slides, nothing new really. Vega with HBM2 etc.

http://ir.amd.com/mobile.view?c=74093&v=200&d=2&id=5223086

(In the supporting documents)
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Here is the one of the mentions and the only one that I could find that seemed to have direct GPU relevance. (not telling us anything new)

 AMD disclosed its upcoming GPU architecture roadmap, including “Vega” featuring High
Bandwidth Memory 2, which the company plans to follow with the release of “Navi”
which will be designed with scalability and next-generation memory.
 AMD demonstrated its “Polaris” 10 and 11 next-generation GPUs, with Polaris 11
targeting the notebook market and “Polaris” 10 aimed at the mainstream desktop and
high-end gaming notebook segment. “Polaris” architecture-based GPUs are expected to
deliver a 2x performance per watt improvement over current generation products and
are designed for intensive workloads including 4K video playback and virtual reality
(VR).
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From the 2016 Q1 quarterly.....the third one down. :)
 
Mtom said:
Tho its wccf this seems interesting. 4 variants of top Polaris.
Could this be the 490x later this year?
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I think at least 3 chips (one being bigger than P10) have been expected since AMD clarified that Polaris has support for GDDR5(X), HBM1 and HBM2, but that they decided not to do HBM2 due to cost / availability and push it to Vega. They have never said they're not doing an HBM1 Polaris ...
 
pmc25 said:
I think at least 3 chips (one being bigger than P10) have been expected since AMD clarified that Polaris has support for GDDR5(X), HBM1 and HBM2, but that they decided not to do HBM2 due to cost / availability and push it to Vega. They have never said they're not doing an HBM1 Polaris ...
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I dont think they will make a HBM1 card, 4gb wont do it in 2016.
 
Diagro said:
I was under the impression that there wasn't a 4GB Cap....
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Technically there isn't they could put more HBM1 chips on the interposer, but then they would need to design the interposer and the chip for that from the beginning. Thats a lot of money, and not worth it.
On the smaller cards where 4GB would do the price for HBM and interposer would be too high. On the bigger cards i think they wont offer 4GB because it would look bad against their 8+GB GDDR5 cards and even worse against the same NV cards.
 
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flopper said:
omg stop the internet....
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From a marketing viewpoint. All P10 cards will have 8GB i think. Just look at the flak the Fury got because of it. On the smaller cards 4GB would do fine, but the price is not high enough to justify HBM.
 
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