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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

AllBodies said:
There's no way AMD are selling something with similar performance for similar money, especially after they made a song-and-dance about performance per £.

If they're selling a card in the ~£300 range, it'll be significantly faster than the 390X.

If they're only getting 390/X performance, they'll be selling it for £180-200 tops.
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you forget that every chip has 2 variants, they can put the Pro variant(~390/X perf) cheap, and the XT variant with 20-30% extra performance at a higher price depanding on 1070 speed compared to it.
because if the XT version itself is just about 390 perf then yea, prices shouldn't top 150-200£
 
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So what are AMD launching soon? Will it be a 1080 contender or are they just going for the low/mid gaming section and then releasing Vega (supposedly brought forward to October) for the high end?
 
Gregster said:
So what are AMD launching soon? Will it be a 1080 contender or are they just going for the low/mid gaming section and then releasing Vega (supposedly brought forward to October) for the high end?
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It sounds like the later, I would not be surprised to see 2 versions of Vega, hbm2 and gdr memory due to cost and supply issues
 
Panos said:
To buy a SLOWER product on DX12 & Mantle Vulcan? Only insane people will do that.
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Plenty of them around:)

Although no evidence even comes close to suggesting a 1080 will be slower than a 390 in vulkan or dx12 related things.

Suppose we can all but wait :D
 
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There are also rumours doing the rounds that Polaris 10 and 11 are delayed until Oct. Something about them failing validation over ~850MHz. If this is true than AMD have ****ed up massively with Polaris.
 
ICDP said:
If that rumour is true AMD won't just be able to compete with 1080 in Oct, they will destroy it. Basically it would likely be FuryX + 70% performance.
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Agreed and whilst I hope NVidia won't have something to compete, they are pretty much always on the ball and I suspect they will have the bigger chips ready as well. I do really feel for AMD but past **** ups have not helped them for future plans.
 
Gregster said:
Agreed and whilst I hope NVidia won't have something to compete, they are pretty much always on the ball and I suspect they will have the bigger chips ready as well. I do really feel for AMD but past **** ups have not helped them for future plans.
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agreed. Sad thing is though its not only their own mistakes that hinders them. Its also brand loyalty and extremely strong marketing from nvidia. There are many things about nvidia im not impressed with including the new 1080 but their marketing and ability to sway public opinion even in the midst of a fiasco like 970 vram is just astonishing and impressive. AMD should take notes in this regard, as they have more than once come across as a whining child even if they may at times have been right(we will most likely never know for sure).
 
Gregster said:
Agreed and whilst I hope NVidia won't have something to compete, they are pretty much always on the ball and I suspect they will have the bigger chips ready as well. I do really feel for AMD but past **** ups have not helped them for future plans.
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Its interesting that both companies lineups are all over the place in terms of release dates, not like in the past.
NV: high end - mainstream - top card - low end
AMD: mainstream+low end - top card - high end? (as i suspect there will be something between the 232mm2 Polaris and the 600mm2 Vega)
 
Mtom said:
Its interesting that both companies lineups are all over the place in terms of release dates, not like in the past.
NV: high end - mainstream - top card - low end
AMD: mainstream+low end - top card - high end? (as i suspect there will be something between the 232mm2 Polaris and the 600mm2 Vega)
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It's a big rush to get 14nm out, preferably before the back-to-school period. It looks like each company chose a different approach with the limited schedule.
 
Phixsator said:
agreed. Sad thing is though its not only their own mistakes that hinders them. Its also brand loyalty and extremely strong marketing from nvidia. There are many things about nvidia im not impressed with including the new 1080 but their marketing and ability to sway public opinion even in the midst of a fiasco like 970 vram is just astonishing and impressive. AMD should take notes in this regard, as they have more than once come across as a whining child even if they may at times have been right(we will most likely never know for sure).
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I do like to consider myself neutral, albeit I do favour NVidia of course but when you look at brand marketing, for some reason unbeknownst to me, they just seem to appeal more. I also shook my head when I see AMD staff just nit picking with any and everything to do with NVidia and instead I felt they should have saved time hammering twitter/facebook/forums and responded by knuckling down the good things they have and making them better. I don't care for drivers talk either and I have never really had any issues worth worrying over with either and both have done well but things like ShadowPlay and DSR just seem to work off the bat and new and better things get added but AMD start and never seem to finish and it all comes across as 'Fred in the shed' to coin my Granddads saying.

You look at R&D budgets and say "NVidia have it all and AMD can't compete and cutbacks were needed", which of course is true but when you look back through history, AMD were in a massively strong position a few years ago and NVidia were the struggling one's and a GTX8800 later, the tide started to turn. I hope AMD can really do the same and give some back to NVidia in tech and not twitter.

Mtom said:
Its interesting that both companies lineups are all over the place in terms of release dates, not like in the past.
NV: high end - mainstream - top card - low end
AMD: mainstream+low end - top card - high end? (as i suspect there will be something between the 232mm2 Polaris and the 600mm2 Vega)
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That indeed is strange but I can see where AMD are coming from and I really hope the mass mainstream gamers do buy and get some well needed funds in the purse. A financially strong AMD and NVidia benefits all gamers/enthusiasts in the long run.
 
Within the next 4 weeks,we will have some more solid answers??

Also,regarding the AMD event at the end of the month,are we sure it is Polaris and not the Bristol Ridge and AM4 launch too??
 
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