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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

The power readings seem odd. Just had a look at my power metre and it's showing 132w at idle. Spec in sig and monitor connected to the power meter too.
 
The whole article is bull, nothing in it new, calling 150W a performance/watt rating and saying they hooked up the cards to power meters. It's taking known information, getting it wrong and presenting it as news. It was system power, giving a rough comparison of 30-35W or so for Polaris 10 vs 90W(the official rating) for the 750ti.

Polaris has been confirmed by AMD as 14nm Samsung ONLY, no TSMC. There is basically no speculation around how memory will work in the way they put it. 28nm AMD used HBM for high end, GDDR5 for low end so it's not a new concept that really needs speculating over.
 
Big Polaris and Big Pascal will both end up using around 250watts give or take a few.

This does not take much brain power to work out as ultimately power usage will come down to how good the cooling is.
 
TBH, doesn't matter how good Polaris is, as NVIDIA cards will always perform better in gameworks titles and NVIDIA will have the power to force developers to remove any feature that their hardware doesn't support but AMD does (such as async in the recent tombraider game).

Going forward, more and more games are becomming Gameworks titles, eventually all will be I guess.

Looks like I'll be getting a Pascal card after all.
 
Dave2150 said:
TBH, doesn't matter how good Polaris is, as NVIDIA cards will always perform better in gameworks titles and NVIDIA will have the power to force developers to remove any feature that their hardware doesn't support but AMD does (such as async in the recent tombraider game).

Going forward, more and more games are becomming Gameworks titles, eventually all will be I guess.

Looks like I'll be getting a Pascal card after all.
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Just a little heads up, Async shaders only work with Low Abstraction API's. Not DX11.
 
Dave2150 said:
TBH, doesn't matter how good Polaris is, as NVIDIA cards will always perform better in gameworks titles and NVIDIA will have the power to force developers to remove any feature that their hardware doesn't support but AMD does (such as async in the recent tombraider game).

Going forward, more and more games are becomming Gameworks titles, eventually all will be I guess.

Looks like I'll be getting a Pascal card after all.
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I'd rather have 5 fps less and support amd, not nv/gameworks.
Yes AMD cards are slower in some gw titles, but a few fps wont brake it for me.
 
Dave2150 said:
TBH, doesn't matter how good Polaris is, as NVIDIA cards will always perform better in gameworks titles and NVIDIA will have the power to force developers to remove any feature that their hardware doesn't support but AMD does (such as async in the recent tombraider game).

Going forward, more and more games are becomming Gameworks titles, eventually all will be I guess.

Looks like I'll be getting a Pascal card after all.
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This is something that really bugs me about Nvidia :(
 
Dave2150 said:
TBH, doesn't matter how good Polaris is, as NVIDIA cards will always perform better in gameworks titles and NVIDIA will have the power to force developers to remove any feature that their hardware doesn't support but AMD does (such as async in the recent tombraider game).

Going forward, more and more games are becomming Gameworks titles, eventually all will be I guess.

Looks like I'll be getting a Pascal card after all.
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Guess you don't know about the fallout 4 1.3 patch? FuryX now smashes 980ti.
Besides that nv will have to change tak. Over Tessellation will not work with Polaris.
 
My GS30 while docked with 4870HQ playing a video and the titan-x at idle (135/405), pump at low and 3 fans is drawing 68W. Full idle is 64W, this is from the wall with a 500W Gold rated PSU.
 
Dave2150 said:
TBH, doesn't matter how good Polaris is, as NVIDIA cards will always perform better in gameworks titles and NVIDIA will have the power to force developers to remove any feature that their hardware doesn't support but AMD does (such as async in the recent tombraider game).

Going forward, more and more games are becomming Gameworks titles, eventually all will be I guess.

Looks like I'll be getting a Pascal card after all.
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I share your sadness over Gameworks hegemony, however there is still hope that AMD could regain enough market share to give pause to developers. Especially if people keep up the pressure on attacking GW. Hopefully it will become efficacious for companies to gain good will and mindshare by publically stating their games will not use GW and eventually we will go back to fair and free middleware.
 
Orangey said:
I share your sadness over Gameworks hegemony, however there is still hope that AMD could regain enough market share to give pause to developers. Especially if people keep up the pressure on attacking GW. Hopefully it will become efficacious for companies to gain good will and mindshare by publically stating their games will not use GW and eventually we will go back to fair and free middleware.
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Hopefully something will change before Polaris releases. If it doesn't, I'll feel forced to buy Pascal, which is indeed a shame.

As much as I'm a fan of AMD, gameworks has gained traction and now it's almost expected that every big game release features which 'wonderful' software.
 
drunkenmaster said:
The whole article is bull, nothing in it new, calling 150W a performance/watt rating and saying they hooked up the cards to power meters. It's taking known information, getting it wrong and presenting it as news. It was system power, giving a rough comparison of 30-35W or so for Polaris 10 vs 90W(the official rating) for the 750ti.

Polaris has been confirmed by AMD as 14nm Samsung ONLY, no TSMC. There is basically no speculation around how memory will work in the way they put it. 28nm AMD used HBM for high end, GDDR5 for low end so it's not a new concept that really needs speculating over.
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samsung and glofo, they have shared ip licensing for 14nm, and i dont think they have any new product on TSMC
 
Dave2150 said:
Hopefully something will change before Polaris releases. If it doesn't, I'll feel forced to buy Pascal, which is indeed a shame.

As much as I'm a fan of AMD, gameworks has gained traction and now it's almost expected that every big game release features which 'wonderful' software.
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Why would you feel forced to buy pascal if gameworks is a load of crap in your opinion? Just go Polaris and do without the effects.
 
I honestly don't know a single person who actually cared that much about all these effects - people tend to buy whatever is recommended to them by review sites,etc. So if AMD gets good reviews and has a decent product they will get sales like they did with the HD5800 series. in fact the rot really only set in with Maxwell since AMD did not even have a coherent strategy to deal with it plus you hardly saw AMD sponsor many games or even have their name on them.
 
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