AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

Mauller · 24 Apr 2016 at 16:18

Also talking about interposers, they have been used for years, all the way back since early pentiums in the 90's

Mtom · 24 Apr 2016 at 19:33

AMD Confirms Polaris GPU Positioning – Polaris 10 Aims The Mainstream Desktop/Notebook Market, Polaris 11 Targets Notebook Market

According to AMD, the Radeon R9 Fury series cards are enthusiast grade products. Everything below them that includes the Radeon R9 390 and Radeon R9 380 series are mainstream cards.

AMD Polaris 10 Allegedely Performs Close To A GTX 980 Ti, Extremely Efficient and Competitive Design
We also want to share some information we learned from our sources about Polaris 11. AMD recently hosted a event in Taiwan to showcase their Polaris GPUs (Polaris 10 and Polaris 11) along with the Radeon Pro Duo card to journalists. We shared slides of the Radeon Pro Duo from that event yesterday. People were able to get some info out of AMD and it seems like the Polaris 10 can be an extremely competitive product.

The AMD Polaris 10 GPU has a maximum TDP of 175W but cards will actually consume much less than that. The GPU was initially built to support HBM memory but AMD chose to go the GDDR5/X route since it offers a better value currently. We will get to see HBM on AMD GPUs when Vega launches but until then, only Fury series will have HBM support. The Polaris 10 GPU is said to have 3DMark Firestrike Ultra performance around 4000 points which is about what a Radeon R9 Fury X and GeForce GTX 980 Ti score. By 4000 points, we don’t mean exactly 4000 but it’s actually quite a bit less but that’s the number we were told.

Jono8 · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:03

Mtom said:
The Polaris 10 GPU is said to have 3DMark Firestrike Ultra performance around 4000 points which is about what a Radeon R9 Fury X and GeForce GTX 980 Ti score. By 4000 points, we don’t mean exactly 4000 but it’s actually quite a bit less but that’s the number we were told.

SimBy · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:11

Jono8 said:

LOL. WCCFT at its best.

Phixsator · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:19

SimBy said:
LOL. WCCFT at its best.

Well i play gta 5 , max settings, with close to 200fps.. give or take 150..

useless information no?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:22

So around Fury level performance??

muziqaz · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:26

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
So around Fury level performance??

Yeah as low as 380x and as high as tesla pascal

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:28

muziqaz said:
Yeah as low as 380x and as high as tesla pascal

The lowest would be R9 390 as that is the minimum level card for VR in the AMD lineup according to OR and HTC.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:32

muziqaz · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:37

All wccftech did was get previous statement of polaris 10 being very competitive priced and made up an article

If Polaris 10 performs close to 980ti thats high end, not mainstream, but AMD would bring it down to mainstream with their pricing (which AMD themselves mentioned many times). The rest of the article is just space filling fantasies.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:39

muziqaz said:
All wccftech did was get previous statement of polaris 10 being very competitive priced and made up an article
If Polaris 10 performs close to 980ti thats high end, not mainstream, but AMD would bring it down to mainstream with their pricing (which AMD themselves mentioned many times). The rest of the article is just space filling fantasies.

And new pictures of P10 and P11 in Corsair Air 240 chassis with a system power meter attached.

Only a 50W difference between them running Star Wars:Battlefront.

AlamoX · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:41

i think ppl are expecting way too much from polaris, with a 232mm² i see it more about the 390 perf, and far from fury/ti, maybe nvidia 1080 will be at fury/ti perf or even 20% faster, one thing is sure nvidia mainstream pascal will be no where near as competitive as AMD's price wise, and fury will stay enthusiast card for them untill vega shows up

muziqaz · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:42

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
And new pictures of P10 and P11 in Corsair Air 240 chassis with a system power meter attached.

Only a 50W delta between them running Star Wars:Battlefront.

those pictures are old

we saw them last week

DD

muziqaz · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:43

AlamoX said:
i think ppl are expecting way too much from polaris, with a 232mm² i see it more about the 390 perf, and far from fury/ti, maybe nvidia 1080 will be at fury/ti perf or even 20% faster, one thing is sure nvidia mainstream pascal will be no where near as competitive as AMD's price wise, and fury will stay enthusiast card for them untill vega shows up

I think people just speculating

We can expect whatever we like with any of unknown releases. Look at nvidia pascal thread. there is zero info on performance from nvidia yet thread is full of people thinking it will be much faster than titan x/980ti

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:46

muziqaz said:
those pictures are old we saw them last week DD

Well you wouldn't know at the way this thread goes at times and anyway nobody obviously looked at the pictures not even WCCFTECH!

But that level of power consumption looks more like a GTX950 or GTX960.

AlamoX said:
i think ppl are expecting way too much from polaris, with a 232mm² i see it more about the 390 perf, and far from fury/ti, maybe nvidia 1080 will be at fury/ti perf or even 20% faster, one thing is sure nvidia mainstream pascal will be no where near as competitive as AMD's price wise, and fury will stay enthusiast card for them untill vega shows up

I think at 1080P and 1440P around R9 390 to Fury level performance,which is not hard as Fury is not massively ahead at those resolutions, IIRC.

Mtom · 24 Apr 2016 at 20:51

muziqaz said:
All wccftech did was get previous statement of polaris 10 being very competitive priced and made up an article
If Polaris 10 performs close to 980ti thats high end, not mainstream, but AMD would bring it down to mainstream with their pricing (which AMD themselves mentioned many times). The rest of the article is just space filling fantasies.

Yeah its high in the current generation. Mainstrem in the next. Just like high end 780ti- mainstream 390

LoadsaMoney · 24 Apr 2016 at 21:03

AMD’s Polaris 10 Will Be Aimed at Mainstream Desktop and High-End Gaming Notebook Markets

The AMD Polaris 10 GPU is known to be the flagship chip based on the GCN 4.0 architecture. The Polaris 10 will remain the flagship until Vega arrives which is launching in 2017.

According to AMD, the Radeon R9 Fury series cards are enthusiast grade products. Everything below them that includes the Radeon R9 390 and Radeon R9 380 series are mainstream cards.

Wtf, so only the 390s and below are getting replaced this year, RIP AMD :eek:

Lokken86 · 24 Apr 2016 at 21:08

That would be good if the price is right.

FoxEye · 24 Apr 2016 at 21:45

Having now destroyed my backup 7850 these just need to be better than Intel HD 3000 graphics for me to open my wallet

Can you deliver that, AMD?

TheRealDeal · 24 Apr 2016 at 22:07

LoadsaMoney said:
Wtf, so only the 390s and below are getting replaced this year, RIP AMD

So according to the article above the Polaris 10 will be close in performance to a gtx980ti/fury X and will be priced in the mainsteam. It also has a max tdp of 175W but will use way less.

This card sounds a lot like the Gtx970/gtx780ti and we all knew how that turned out. Sounds to me if priced right this thing could sell like hot cakes.

Keep in mind Nvidia's chip is a lot bigger so should be faster but will have to be priced higher. It sounds to me like AMD are ready to be very aggressive on pricing.