AMD have no reason to hide info right now, i am pretty sure you will have a hard launch at computex
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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0
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AMD have no reason to hide info right now, i am pretty sure you will have a hard launch at computex
DP 1.4/1.3 adaptive sync is "Optional" EG it doesnt mean the hardware has to be there to support it to meet the standard.
Seems futile to explain to some that Vulcan is a combination of a work from both gpu vendors and game devs and others.
End of the day both sides milk customers in many ways from drip feeding improvements to rebranding cards .
Personally hoping Polaris comes out swinging and helps AMD regain market share
Nano chips are hand selected for their power efficiency. What would AMD do with all the chips that don't make th nano garden, but could be sold as a Fury?
Same old same old; nvidia releases their cards and everyone waits for amd to release something that is competitive, yet fail to do so in time and nvidia gobbles up the market. Really wanted to go with amd this time around, but I have to sell my GTX 980 Ti now before it loses all of its value and there's no way I'm going to wait two months for the Polaris 10 when I have no idea how it is going to perform. Yet another round that is going to go to nvidia. Sigh.
I doubt it, most likely their chips will be a few months behind NVIDIA.
AMD have a tiny budget compared to NVIDIA. It's probably more than 100 to 1 at the moment. No way AMD can compete with NVIDIA's development pace, or very embarrassing for NVIDIA if they could.
You cannot wait a month? You buy now without knowing what the competition has. Even worst. You might pre-order without knowing anything about the 1080. Other than it is faster than the 980Ti.
May I point out the same thing happened last year? And the year before? When was the last time you saw a review with the latest drivers from both sides? I urge you to do so. And you will realise that you are a slave to NV marketing department.
See the DX12 or Vulcan performance of the 290X against the 980Ti. Yes a 3y old card is as fast. Now go and buy the next NV card because thats what their marketing department wants
You cannot wait a month? You buy now without knowing what the competition has. Even worst. You might pre-order without knowing anything about the 1080. Other than it is faster than the 980Ti.
May I point out the same thing happened last year? And the year before? When was the last time you saw a review with the latest drivers from both sides? I urge you to do so. And you will realise that you are a slave to NV marketing department.
See the DX12 or Vulcan performance of the 290X against the 980Ti. Yes a 3y old card is as fast. Now go and buy the next NV card because thats what their marketing department wants
The problem is that we still don't know if AMD will have anything to counter the pascal launch at the end of this month. I was hoping on not having to wait longer than a month for the newer cards and if AMD won't have anything to offer I will have no other option than to go with nvidia again. I know AMD is planning on officially unveiling the Polaris cards at computex, but it could be another month after that for initial availability. Just wish AMD would at least release something to make me want to wait and make sure they have enough on release day for me to get one.
And I really couldn't care less about dx12 performance on the GTX 980 Ti as I will have moved on long before any decent DX12 titles have become available. For me what mattered most was that I got absolutely stellar DX11 performance, which is something the Fury X failed to deliver for the same amount of money. I actually waited and had the Fury X on pre-order, but upon seeing the reviews, I quickly cancelled it and went with a GTX 980 Ti instead.
No need to justify yourself bud. Tech moves on so quickly and if you have the funds, go for it. Polaris news has been very quiet and AMD showed a working chip beating a 950 in power usage to a few select press peoples. They ned to get some solid info out or they will lose more customers to NVidia.
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Given how far ahead Radeon cards are in DX12 permit over it's Gefore counterparts I don't think AMD has much to worry about IMO from what I've seen of Pascal architecture I don't see any dramatic changes in that arena anytime soon.
AMD will probably go for volume sales targeting the mid to high end but will smaller dies so it's more important they get there gp's correct then anything else for ultra enthusiasts they will probably churn out another x2/Duo Polaris at some point.
AMD will probably go for volume sales targeting the mid to high end but will smaller dies so it's more important they get there gp's correct then anything else for ultra enthusiasts they will probably churn out another x2/Duo Polaris at some point.
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If you had bought AMD stock just a month ago you would laughing all the way to the bank right now. I'm guessing that's why we haven't seen much of Drunkmaster recently.
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NVM.
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Unless, they are doing what they did with the HD4870 and are making sure Nvidia cannot react - they might want to see the real world benches of the GTX1080 and GTX1070 Founders Edition beforehand. Remember, people said AMD were doomed then when the GTX280 launched first.
Nvidia did exactly the same with the GTX680 launch too.
OFC,it could just be another Fury X launch where AMD believe their own PR,ie,overclockers dream and the last PR piece they did on Carrizo made it look worse than it actually does,so their ability to **** up still is there.
I really hope AMD does not screw it up - if Polaris and Vega don't go well, AMD is not going to be in a good place.
Is it me or did ATI seem to do better launches??
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Hope its better than the fury x and freesync release. I really hope amd haven't jumped the gun with going so heavy into VR.
True. That would be sad to see. They will hopefully at least be able to match the 1070 in general performance on their top Polaris sku.
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They are making lots of noise about going in to VR, but really all they are doing is releasing a normal new card.
Nvidia have gone with launching the higher end first, it sounds like AMD are launching a smaller cheaper card first. It will be interesting to see how soon nvidia get their 1060 card out. Both sides will now have cheaper cards that target the "minimum" viable for VR. But looking at 2015's sales figures, the highend is becoming a larger (and more profitable) segment of the market. Its looking like AMD are reacting to how the market was 2 years ago.
I was pilloried a few days ago for saying that AMD needed to get their marketing message out there now, as right now it was all rumours, and now Nvidia controlling the narrative. Nvidia are happy to launch spoilers when AMD launch GPUs, but AMD are happy to let Nvidia have a comfortable day in the sun and let the market think they have nothing to offer.
And when AMD do launch and only have mainstream parts instead of a faster high end, it will again be cemented in the average person's mind that Nvidia is "better" regardless of the facts. It's the same failures of AMD marketing that we've seen time and time again. It's as if they live in a little universe of their own where they have no competitors and no competitive landscape they need to operate in.
Vega cannot come soon enough for AMD, as without it there's no reason for someone with 290/390 to upgrade. I'm not interested in upgrading to the same chip as I have but on a smaller process, so Polaris offers me nothing of interest.
And when AMD do launch and only have mainstream parts instead of a faster high end, it will again be cemented in the average person's mind that Nvidia is "better" regardless of the facts. It's the same failures of AMD marketing that we've seen time and time again. It's as if they live in a little universe of their own where they have no competitors and no competitive landscape they need to operate in.
Vega cannot come soon enough for AMD, as without it there's no reason for someone with 290/390 to upgrade. I'm not interested in upgrading to the same chip as I have but on a smaller process, so Polaris offers me nothing of interest.
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Ellesmere XT is more than just Hawaii/Grenada on a smaller process. Even if it has similar number of CU's, they have added many performance enhancing features that will make it a faster part at the same clocks. And that is before any overclocking headroom added by the new node and finfetts being taken into account.
Ellesmere XT has nothing to worry about against the 1080, it will clock up and match or exceed it at a lower price point.
It is like people saying that Baffin XT will be 950 performance, Baffin XT has Pitcairn numbers of CU's and Pitcairn already has a lead on the 950 by a decent margin. And that is before any of the GCN2-4 enhancements or clock improvements from the node shrink, considering Pitcairn is still GCN1 vs Maxwell2 950.
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I think that's going to happen regardless imo. I've been nVidia for about 13 months now and I've had almost nothing but a positive experience!!! I really don't care if AMD are 20% ahead at the same price point tbh, I'm locked in now with this X34 and I'm really really happy about it!!!
It's going to take something special for AMD to tempt me back over, and I just don't think they've got it in them...