AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

[JediFragger]

Tbf it really is inevitable that these threads will cross pollinate. what's the problem as long as people keep it civil? Maybe that's the real reason you guys are irked

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Tbf it really is inevitable that these threads will cross pollinate. what's the problem as long as people keep it civil? Maybe that's the real reason you guys are irked

Yet I don't see any Fury X vs GTX980TI bickering in that thread.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Latest Polaris news

Just been meandering around the Pascal threads and spotted a post that is claiming that a leak of info states that the Gigabyte version of the 1080 (GTX 1080 Gaming G1) can reach up to 2.4Ghz.

Now that is fairly impressive, especially if they do come in @ $599 and not $699.

Now before you all flame me for coming into an AMD thread and saying this....please read on...

What some of those posters in the Pascal thread either didnt mention, didn't see or just completely ignored (take your pick)....was the info on the R9 470X that was below it (Actually the Headline of the actual piece was about the 470X NOT the 1080). Oh this was translated from Chinese so bear with it.

IT Home News May 13 message, just IT House exposure of the public version of the GTX overclocking 1080 , I believe many people have been core frequency of 2114MHz GTX sturdy performance of 1080 scared, but the latest news is that Gigabyte non-public version of the card is the GTX 1080 Gaming G1 core frequency can reach 2.4Ghz, compared to the public version of the top 13% frequency increase again.
Of course GTX 1080 5399 Yuan high price is not the average consumer can afford, we still tend to choose more graphics thousand or so, AMD is currently a low-end graphics card Radeon R9 470X exposure, alleged that the card uses the new Polaris 11 architecture, TDP of only 60W, that is to say no external auxiliary power supply to normal operation.
AMD R9 470X exposure: TDP is only 60W
It is reported that, R9 470X will use 1280 stream processors, 1GHz core frequency, 80 texture units, 40 raster units, the use of 4GB GDDR5 memory, memory frequency 7Ghz, memory interface is 128Bits, 112GB / S memory bandwidth .
The graphics performance is expected between R9 380 to R9 380X, as for the price, about 1,100 yuan, will be released in the second quarter of this year. I believe that focusing on power players, R9 470X is a good choice.

So we have the R9 470X with roughly equivalent performance between 380/380X and this comes in at 60W TDP with no power connectors so powered through the PCIe bus for 1,100 Yuan (Yes, I did the exchange rate for you) = £117 (Not sure if this is without taxes/Vat or whatever though). Not bad performance per £ considering the current 380/X is still selling on OCUK for between £158.99 - £199.99 and needs minimum 2x 6pin power connector.

Link is here http://www.ithome.com/html/digi/225244.htm

also more interesting info here on P10/P11 http://videocardz.com/59903/possible-polaris-10-and-polaris-11-specifications-emerge

Oh and just to let you know the exchange rate on the GTX1080 came in at approx £575

AMD debunks Polaris delay rumour from guy in Zoo:

http://www.eteknix.com/amd-debunks-recent-negative-rumours/

Mobile Polaris 10 and 11 GPU specs leaked:

http://videocardz.com/59903/possible-polaris-10-and-polaris-11-specifications-emerge

AMD to give an "inside look" at Polaris on May 18th:

http://videocardz.com/59923/amd-to-give-inside-look-at-polaris-on-may-18th

 

[Rannoch]

I hope AMD deliver some good products, once the benchmarks appear I'll make my choice.

 

[sajtion]

i don't know how amd can go with 4 gb cards when all console pc ports require a minimum of 8gb memory. i expected both nvidia and amd to go at least bit ahead of console tech with 10gb or 12gb cards.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

i don't know how amd can go with 4 gb cards when all console pc ports require a minimum of 8gb memory. i expected both nvidia and amd to go at least bit ahead of console tech with 10gb or 12gb cards.

The card mentioned is Polaris 11,which should be replacing cards like the R7 370 and R9 380.

 

[flopper]

Yet I don't see any Fury X vs GTX980TI bickering in that thread.

of course not, the FuryX crushes the 980ti and what else is there to say?

AMD to give an "inside look" at Polaris on May 18th:

http://videocardz.com/59923/amd-to-give-inside-look-at-polaris-on-may-18th

Thats all we know atm.
in 3 weeks we will have a settled benchline in what to expect.
atm its all guesswork.

However stars are shining brightly as Vega and Polaris

 

[Dave2150]

of course not, the FuryX crushes the 980ti and what else is there to say?



Thats all we know atm.
in 3 weeks we will have a settled benchline in what to expect.
atm its all guesswork.

However stars are shining brightly as Vega and Polaris

LOL.

The fury X looses 99% of the time to a 980ti. Overclock both and the gap just widens.

 

[Overlag]

Do you 2 have to have drama across numerous threads? **** me, when did these stop being cards and start being a religion (posv reference).

i was thinking this the other day, Its almost like Nvidia/AMD are some sort of religion to some people. WHO cares that you love Nvidia/AMD so much. This is a Polaris thread and all we have, basically from Page1 is people whining about Nvidia vs AMD.

 

[Steampunk]

Unfortunately, in the absence of real information, people make up their own entertainment. People feel compelled to argue their entrenched position (or tribal favourite) instead of stopping to think if their posting adds value to the discussion. That's the way it always is.

Things will calm down a little once we get proper launches, reviews and product, but then it will move on to the same arguments with Vega. Another reason to hope Vega arrives early is to stop all the associated bickering ahead of it's release.

 

[DarrenM343]

Wish the mods would sort this thread out, if you read the Pascal thread it's full of discussion on the product and rarely a mention of a competitor and no bickering

Dunno about that, seen lots of in-bickering in at least one Pascal related thread over the value of Ti's and how good the performance of a 1080 will be.

What worries me is that many of the nonsense posts (IMO) are written by people who can vote on BREXIT etc. .

It is of course easy to be annoying, talk rubbish, wind people up when faceless on an internet forum - I expect we're all done it at some point. People should consider how they talk/behave in day to day life and apply it to forums.

 

[JediFragger]

Yet I don't see any Fury X vs GTX980TI bickering in that thread.

It's the bickering that's the problem then, not the cross-threading posts

 

[drunkenmaster]

i don't know how amd can go with 4 gb cards when all console pc ports require a minimum of 8gb memory. i expected both nvidia and amd to go at least bit ahead of console tech with 10gb or 12gb cards.

LIterally not a single console port has required more than a couple of gigs of memory and 99% so far run great at 4k with 4GB.... require a minimum of 8GB, complete and utter made up nonsense.

No console games, none at all, use 8GB of gpu memory. The consoles have 8GB of memory in total for system and graphics memory including all concurrently running background apps. No game will ever use 8GB of memory for graphics on the console and no console port will ever required 8GB of graphics memory as a minimum.

 

[Seanspeed]

Missed this....

Okay to answer your points

1) It's never stopped you posting Nvidia stuff in the AMD threads
2) I dont read chinese either but there is an easy to use translate button (in case you didnt know)
3) So if the 470 is going to be at 380-380X speeds then would you say maybe the 480 is going to be at least 390-390X speeds...and maybe the 490 is going to be somewhere in the Fury X/980Ti Ballpark...maybe.

It depends on how AMD handles the naming schemes between Polaris and Vega. If Vega is gonna be out less than 6 months after Polaris, then those cards might occupy the 490 series slots.

 

[sajtion]

LIterally not a single console port has required more than a couple of gigs of memory and 99% so far run great at 4k with 4GB.... require a minimum of 8GB, complete and utter made up nonsense.

No console games, none at all, use 8GB of gpu memory. The consoles have 8GB of memory in total for system and graphics memory including all concurrently running background apps. No game will ever use 8GB of memory for graphics on the console and no console port will ever required 8GB of graphics memory as a minimum.

there are quite few pc games where 8gb is at least recommended. i mean 8gb is a safety net for the next 5 years. pc game are only going to become more demanding and ram use will increase. i'm not going to pay £300 for amd video card now and be forced to buy upgrade again next year

btw

gta 5 recommends 8gb
doom 4 recommends 8gb

 

[meldarthx]

It depends on how AMD handles the naming schemes between Polaris and Vega. If Vega is gonna be out less than 6 months after Polaris, then those cards might occupy the 490 series slots.

Pretty sure Polaris will slot into 400s spots and Vegas is replacement for Fury; we'll know the 18th as AMD is doing a release on Polaris or at least information release on it - when it launches we should know also on the 18th.

that's 4 days

 

[Orangey]

I wouldn't go by what "recommended" specs say. This is too important for GPU companies so no doubt they get kickbacks of some kind for overstating them.

 

[andybird123]

it makes me chuckle every time I see someone call it Vegas when they are obviously not meaning it as a plural
Polaris is a star, so is Vega, its a proper noun and there is only one, there shouldn't be a plural

Vegas is plural for "meadow" in spanish, I kind of like the idea of turfing your PC though

 

[old gamer]

Viva Las vega

 

[Phixsator]

there are quite few pc games where 8gb is at least recommended. i mean 8gb is a safety net for the next 5 years. pc game are only going to become more demanding and ram use will increase. i'm not going to pay £300 for amd video card now and be forced to buy upgrade again next year

btw

gta 5 recommends 8gb
doom 4 recommends 8gb

Yes 8gb system memory not vram.. Big difference. Recommended vram for Doom is 4gb. I dont understand all the focus on vram these days. Many will run out of GPU horsepower before ever filling the vram up even on 4gig model.