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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

tavtavtav said:
Tbh If the 480 is released and there is nothing known about any rivalling nvidia cards I'd say quite possibly yes.
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TBH, the 970 perform at 390-390X levels and draws 145w compared to 275-300w of the 390x. Polaris is supposed to be twice the perform mace per watt so it's going to be not too distant to the 970.

Nvidia can drop prices of the 970 to around $200, 980 to $300.

But apparently nvidia stopped prudctiin which means small pascal.chips incoming
 
D.P. said:
It's most likely AMD will launch Polaris earlier unless they have serious problems. The question is how much earlier. If the Polaris NDA ends June 29th, any guesses when hard are is aeound? Maybe AMD get a 1 month head starf, Nvidia leak some prices and benchmarks to curtail sales.
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It does appear AMD might get Polaris out before Nvidia's matching line, Nvidia may let out some prices and benchmarks out to hurt AMD sales, also its just a possible they may not as the rumoured cards might not be coming out in July...funny thing about rumours not always true, but some are acting like there all facts.


Nvidia know AMD will be coming out around June 29th. At worst they found out today, but i would guess they have had a good idea for a while, not least AMD told everyone when the window was, but by the standards AMD are being held to by a number of people on here, Nvidia should have those results out now...
 
D.P. said:
TBH, the 970 perform at 390-390X levels and draws 145w compared to 275-300w of the 390x. Polaris is supposed to be twice the perform mace per watt so it's going to be not too distant to the 970.

Nvidia can drop prices of the 970 to around $200, 980 to $300.

But apparently nvidia stopped prudctiin which means small pascal.chips incoming
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I don't get this post. What is it trying to accomplish?

Why is this in this thread?

Let's all hope for our anus's sake amd do well, and stop trying to bury them before any concrete information is released shall we? ;)
 
drunkenmaster said:
Steam user base has absolutely zero bearing on market share, none at all. The 970 wasn't the greatest selling card of all time, $350 cards simply absolutely do not outsell $150 gpus, ever, there is a magnitude of difference in sales and steam userbase means exactly nothing at all. I have no idea who decided to start talking about the 970 being the best selling GPU ever, it's laughable and entirely insane.

If the 970 sold 5million, the 950 would have sold 20million, there is zero chance at all that 970 was the best selling gpu of all time, best selling card in it's price point is possible but not all that likely either.
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AMD and Nvidia found Steam hardware survey very useful tool to build other picture on the status of PC games market where new cards bought from retailers or bought used cards installed on PCs with Steam running to play games. AMD Roy Taylor admitted he used Steam hardware survey, JPR, Mecury data as tools for sales and marketing.

The 970 is number 1 on Steam hardware survey so is Windows 10 too. Months after 970 launch I think somebody asked Gibbo how well 970 sell and Gibbo confirmed 970 being the best selling GPU ever, broke all sales record surpassed G80.

GTX 950 would have sold 20 millions? Your numbers did not added up as it never happened. GTX 950 was launched back in August 2015, if you looked at JPR segment chart that both AMD and Nvidia shipped about 3.5 million mainstream cards in Q3 2015, 4.5 million in Q4 2015 and around 4 million in Q1 2016, rough 12 million in total but it impossible to know how many mainstream cards Nvidia had shipped. Nvidia probably shipped 2 million GTX 950 cards depend on sales figures how well it sold. Accorded to Steam hardware survey April 2016, 950 had 1.04% share, that about 1,726,400 950 owners out of 166M users in April so 950 is not the best selling mainstream GPU but GTX 960 had 6.26% share or about 10,391,600 owners and GTX 960 is 2nd most popular GPU and the best selling mainstream GPU.
 
D.P. said:
GP106 rumoured for July release
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D.P. said:
Over $300.just look at he the big jump in 2015, exactly as I was saying earlier. The 970 is the biggest contributer to that spike in sales.

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-amd-gpu-market-share-q4-2015/
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D.P. said:
TBH, the 970 perform at 390-390X levels and draws 145w compared to 275-300w of the 390x. Polaris is supposed to be twice the perform mace per watt so it's going to be not too distant to the 970.

Nvidia can drop prices of the 970 to around $200, 980 to $300.

But apparently nvidia stopped prudctiin which means small pascal.chips incoming
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Seanspeed said:
Look at the response he quoted maybe?
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Not sure but that seems like nvidia spam in a amd radeon Polaris thread.
 
Lokken86 said:
How can I see this?
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It was deleted but Google cached the post!!

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AthlonXP1800 said:
AMD and Nvidia found Steam hardware survey very useful tool to build other picture on the status of PC games market where new cards bought from retailers or bought used cards installed on PCs with Steam running to play games. AMD Roy Taylor admitted he used Steam hardware survey, JPR, Mecury data as tools for sales and marketing.

The 970 is number 1 on Steam hardware survey so is Windows 10 too. Months after 970 launch I think somebody asked Gibbo how well 970 sell and Gibbo confirmed 970 being the best selling GPU ever, broke all sales record surpassed G80.

GTX 950 would have sold 20 millions? Your numbers did not added up as it never happened. GTX 950 was launched back in August 2015, if you looked at JPR segment chart that both AMD and Nvidia shipped about 3.5 million mainstream cards in Q3 2015, 4.5 million in Q4 2015 and around 4 million in Q1 2016, rough 12 million in total but it impossible to know how many mainstream cards Nvidia had shipped. Nvidia probably shipped 2 million GTX 950 cards depend on sales figures how well it sold. Accorded to Steam hardware survey April 2016, 950 had 1.04% share, that about 1,726,400 950 owners out of 166M users in April so 950 is not the best selling mainstream GPU but GTX 960 had 6.26% share or about 10,391,600 owners and GTX 960 is 2nd most popular GPU and the best selling mainstream GPU.
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First of all you didn't read what I said, I specifically said that IF the 970 sold 5 million then the 950 would have sold 20million. I did not claim they sold 20million. I was pointing out that the lower end cards sell by a magnitude higher than midrange, which sells by a magnitude higher than the highend.

Second you're again conflating gamers with all gpu sales, which is exactly the point I'm making. 960 having a larger share on Steam does not equate to having a larger share of all gpu sales, just GAMERS gpu sales, which are a small fraction of the market.

Again I listed how many APUs were in the top 30 on the steam hardware and these are all lower end gpus, steam doesn't represent discrete sales, so comparing Steam numbers to discrete gpu sales is worthless. Steam doesn't represent all gpu sales either, so comparing to that is worthless. Steam represents, not likely very accurately, the percentage of all gpu sales(discrete and APU) which are then used for gaming on steam, nothing more than that.

If 20mil 950s are sold and 10mil 960s are sold, it can still work out that 9mil of the 960s get used for gaming on steam and only 1 mil of the 950s get used for gaming. So steam hardware would suggest 960s sell at a ratio of 9:1 compared to 950s when in reality they sold at a ratio of 1:2.. a dramatically different picture.

Gamers do not make up the majority of gpu sales, Steam represents a fairly large portion but by absolutely no means all gamers and I pointed out some inconsistencies.

Throughout the period that the R200 and r300 has been on sale AMD has had pretty much between a 20-30% discrete gpu marketshare. Yet the entire R200 series is represented as a single number, and is tiny and the R300 series isn't represented at all. D.P suggests R300's get counted as R200s because they are rebrands, ignoring the dozens of rebrands both AMD and Nvidia listed in their numbers and even if it were true that the number is so low for even more cards it's insanely inaccurate.

Maybe AMD users are more cautious and don't take the hardware survey, I know I don't. Maybe Nvidia users like to pay more for status and thus are more likely to take the hardware survey, I don't know. I do know the numbers don't really add up for R200/300 series cards in any sensible way.
 
He was probably told to tweet and delete knowing full well what would happen, AMD need to keep doing little teasers like this or people will just keep buying Nvidia with zero info coming from AMD
 
D.P. said:
TBH, the 970 perform at 390-390X levels and draws 145w compared to 275-300w of the 390x. Polaris is supposed to be twice the perform mace per watt so it's going to be not too distant to the 970.

Nvidia can drop prices of the 970 to around $200, 980 to $300.

But apparently nvidia stopped prudctiin which means small pascal.chips incoming
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I suppose in that case they would have a rivalling card and a plan of action to stop sales. They could probably be confident and soak up short term losses.

I wouldn't think it would be wise for AMD to do absolutely nothing however (not that I am saying that is what they intend to do).
 
Looks like the 1070 has 980Ti levels of performance from an early preview on a French site in one of the Nvidia threads

Will Polaris be able to match that for the same money or less? I am getting doubtful
 
Relentless81 said:
Looks like the 1070 has 980Ti levels of performance from an early preview on a French site in one of the Nvidia threads

Will Polaris be able to match that for the same money or less? I am getting doubtful
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cheaper without a doubt, same perfs not likely, polaris should be slower by 10% best case scenario, 30% slower worst case scenario
 
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