Try Trixxx instead and if it happens with that then id consider rma'ing it. Gpu-Z probably changed the clock states and maybe that's what caused it.
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Try Trixxx instead and if it happens with that then id consider rma'ing it. Gpu-Z probably changed the clock states and maybe that's what caused it.
Hey guys, I'm really stuck and frustrated with my Crossfire problems. I am coming from GTX 680 SLI and no other hardware has changed. I did a full driver clean and reinstall using DDU.
Please read through what I've experienced and offer suggestions.
Specs(main bits):
i7 2600k @4.8ghz
p8p67 Pro
MSI Gaming R9 290 / Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 (both on Legacy bios I believe)
Silverstone Strider ST85 (850 watt)
2x 256gb SSD, 2x 2TB HDD
Corsair XMS 8GB 1600 DDR3
Windows 7 SP1
Using HDMI or DVI-D
Temperatures obviously vary, but they are not wildly high in Crossfire. On average it's top card 65-70, bottom card 60-70.
When not running crossfire, they perform fine and I get no crashes regardless of driver version, voltages or memory clocks.
Together they crash/black screen often in games. When they do crash games, it is after it's loaded a map or assets.
Game examples, all in 2560x1600:
-BF4 let's me work through a map for about a a minute and then gives me a Direct X texture render/allocation error and occasionally the VRAM error(like when you try to run 200% resolution on a low VRAM GPU). It then proceeds to crash Windows Explorer when I try to open task manager and says system RAM allocation is out of memory. However if I reduce the settings from Ultra to High, it doesn't crash.
-Skyrim loads up fine and then when I pan the camera it slows to a crawl and all textures go black.
-Bioshock Infinite black screen/not responding after about a minute in.
-Firefall won't launch.
-Far Cry 3 purrs along nicely for ten minutes and then crashes to desktop.
I've tried :
-Different combinations of the BIOS switch on each card
-Both cards physically alone in both PCI E slots, and also with them installed simultaneously but Crossfire disabled via software.
-Undervolt/overvolt, underclock/overclock shared or separate profiles(includes lowering memory to 1000)
-Disabled ULPS
-Enabled/disabled 'Extend Official Overclock Limits' in Afterburner
-Synced and unsynced GPU settings in Afterburner
-Several complete driver reinstalls, fresh from 13.12 to 14.7
-Checked all the fans, cooling solutions and monitored no excessive or new high temperatures
-Installed CCC to ensure Catalyst AI was on standard instead of advanced setting
-Disabled any overlays AB, RP etc.
-Run on single monitor
On the plus side, they have yet to BSOD, RSOD or turn off the computer/power down.
Possibilities :
A)I thought maybe it was PSU related, but wouldn't I be facing constant and instantaneous crashing rather than a delayed fail? Also would I not see more BSODs and complete computer shut-offs if it was PSU? If it can pass a Heaven run....
B)I read somewhere that 290s had a problem with supplying enough voltage when used in PCI E 2.0 configurations. It just so happens my board runs both these cards at 2.0 x8. And while this may have some relation, I've seen several persons with similar motherboards PCI-E setups whom do not have the problem.
C)Something wrong with the texture fill or VRAM, given that BF4 crashes on ULTRA and Skyrim gets black textures which is a known issue when you run out of memory.
Please read through what I've experienced and offer suggestions.
Specs(main bits):
i7 2600k @4.8ghz
p8p67 Pro
MSI Gaming R9 290 / Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 (both on Legacy bios I believe)
Silverstone Strider ST85 (850 watt)
2x 256gb SSD, 2x 2TB HDD
Corsair XMS 8GB 1600 DDR3
Windows 7 SP1
Using HDMI or DVI-D
Temperatures obviously vary, but they are not wildly high in Crossfire. On average it's top card 65-70, bottom card 60-70.
When not running crossfire, they perform fine and I get no crashes regardless of driver version, voltages or memory clocks.
Together they crash/black screen often in games. When they do crash games, it is after it's loaded a map or assets.
Game examples, all in 2560x1600:
-BF4 let's me work through a map for about a a minute and then gives me a Direct X texture render/allocation error and occasionally the VRAM error(like when you try to run 200% resolution on a low VRAM GPU). It then proceeds to crash Windows Explorer when I try to open task manager and says system RAM allocation is out of memory. However if I reduce the settings from Ultra to High, it doesn't crash.
-Skyrim loads up fine and then when I pan the camera it slows to a crawl and all textures go black.
-Bioshock Infinite black screen/not responding after about a minute in.
-Firefall won't launch.
-Far Cry 3 purrs along nicely for ten minutes and then crashes to desktop.
I've tried :
-Different combinations of the BIOS switch on each card
-Both cards physically alone in both PCI E slots, and also with them installed simultaneously but Crossfire disabled via software.
-Undervolt/overvolt, underclock/overclock shared or separate profiles(includes lowering memory to 1000)
-Disabled ULPS
-Enabled/disabled 'Extend Official Overclock Limits' in Afterburner
-Synced and unsynced GPU settings in Afterburner
-Several complete driver reinstalls, fresh from 13.12 to 14.7
-Checked all the fans, cooling solutions and monitored no excessive or new high temperatures
-Installed CCC to ensure Catalyst AI was on standard instead of advanced setting
-Disabled any overlays AB, RP etc.
-Run on single monitor
On the plus side, they have yet to BSOD, RSOD or turn off the computer/power down.
Possibilities :
A)I thought maybe it was PSU related, but wouldn't I be facing constant and instantaneous crashing rather than a delayed fail? Also would I not see more BSODs and complete computer shut-offs if it was PSU? If it can pass a Heaven run....
B)I read somewhere that 290s had a problem with supplying enough voltage when used in PCI E 2.0 configurations. It just so happens my board runs both these cards at 2.0 x8. And while this may have some relation, I've seen several persons with similar motherboards PCI-E setups whom do not have the problem.
C)Something wrong with the texture fill or VRAM, given that BF4 crashes on ULTRA and Skyrim gets black textures which is a known issue when you run out of memory.
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I've contacted the MM seller to request an RMA. I cannot contend with its instability on, what is appearing to be, a more frequent basis.
I just want it to work without all the messing around.
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I think I had a similar issue when running 8GB ram and no pagefile with certain games. What fixed it was running either 16GB/no page file or 8GB ram with page file (8GB in my case IIRC).
Hey Snips, a page ago someone mentioned you uninstall Afterburner. Did you try this? I wasn't certain how uninstalling it was any different than simply turning it off?
Was this with Crossfire only? Also, if I do enable it, how much do you recommend?
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I honestly don't know tbh. That's just what worked for me in my hazy recollection 
Either 16GB ram with no file or 8GB ram with an 8GB file (which I currently use). Could probably get away with a smaller file if you need to.
ED: Yes, it was with xfire. Not sure if it would've happened with a single card or not.
Either 16GB ram with no file or 8GB ram with an 8GB file (which I currently use). Could probably get away with a smaller file if you need to.
ED: Yes, it was with xfire. Not sure if it would've happened with a single card or not.
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You should never disable page file and even more so when using Windows 8.
Ignore the rubbish you hear about page file degrading ssd life it's all crap. I have had my ssd with page file for ages now close to two years and it's still in good health.
Ignore the rubbish you hear about page file degrading ssd life it's all crap. I have had my ssd with page file for ages now close to two years and it's still in good health.
I tried disabling Page File in Win 8.1 with 8GB of RAM, i ended up with all sorts of problems, especially with BF4.
In the past in Win 8.1 BF4 would not let me run anything less than 8GB page File.
I can now run 1GB Page File but this is since using Mantle, the previous Page File problem was with DX, i don't know if thats related. i could test it...
In the past in Win 8.1 BF4 would not let me run anything less than 8GB page File.
I can now run 1GB Page File but this is since using Mantle, the previous Page File problem was with DX, i don't know if thats related. i could test it...
I honestly don't know tbh. That's just what worked for me in my hazy recollection
Either 16GB ram with no file or 8GB ram with an 8GB file (which I currently use). Could probably get away with a smaller file if you need to.
ED: Yes, it was with xfire. Not sure if it would've happened with a single card or not.
Big thank you to you and Matt for pointing this out. I tried it at 8192MB and all is working. I did go lower 512, 1024, 2048 and 4096, with no luck.
No crash in BF4, even at 200% resolution and that was after I changed it IN game. With my 680s any graphics adjustment while running a loaded map, resulted in a crash. For fun, I spent a minute randomly applying settings furiously to see if I could make it tank and it wouldn't.
Skyrim is also blazing along, using 3684 VRAM and no black textures. Firefall loaded, no crash in Far Cry 3 and Bioshock.
Doh, I knew I should have looked up there. I'm sorry.
Thanks for the tips concerning Win 8. I may move over at some point.
Lastly, is it intended that Crossfire disables dynamic boost clock?
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Excellent! Tbh, I wouldn't have clocked it had Matt not mentioned the page file thing.
Dunno about the boost clock thing in xfire as I've never used cards with boost.
Dunno about the boost clock thing in xfire as I've never used cards with boost.
I thought the 290s do an excellent job of down clocking while maintaining enough speed to uphold 60 frames, without any loss of frame latency. Subsequently it cut back on heat/power as well.
If Crossfire disables this, I'll be content with my downclocks and undervolting - and thank goodness for that, talk about a heat reduction.
Anyone else got a sound card sandwiched between their GPUs? Poor little *******..
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I had a feeling it was the page file when you described the issues. Glad it's sorted now.
It would also seem my card needs to be RMA'd
Chances of getting another reference??It would also seem my card needs to be RMA'd
Sorry to hear that snips. Looks like you might have a faulty one. I might be able to sell you one of mine before long if you can wait a month or so.
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Sorry mate, be lucky if I last a week.
According to the graphics card warranty thread, OcUK handle the RMA with the turn around being 24-28 hours - shouldn't be bad once the ball gets rolling!
Could be golden then if you get a brand new one. If they don't have any reference cards in stock you may get a AIB card instead. Win Win.
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What's the difference with reference & AIB? I'm not familiar with the acronym!