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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

LtMatt said:
Ah jeez Bru. Why have you gotta take everything so seriously all the time. :(

I can't remove what Jono has quoted im afraid. I'd like to think Jono knew it was just a bit of fun.
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well I found it very offensive and it wasn't even directed at me, I wont report you for it but don't be surprised that the mods wont like it when they see it.
 
bru said:
well I found it very offensive and it wasn't even directed at me, I wont report you for it but don't be surprised that the mods wont like it when they see it.
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I sincerely apologise for offending you Bru, as well as Jono if he was offended as well. Would you like a written letter as well or will this suffice? :)

Boomstick777 said:
This made me chuckle :)
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Have to be careful. See above ^. :eek:

Kaapstad said:
Sorted.

:D
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Atta boy.
 
The preliminary conclusion is that the card is somewhere between faster and slower but not quite direct equal with the GTX Titan as I read it...This reminds me of politics - a lot of words, not much sense.
 
Of course that will suffice, I'm not a complete idiot (parts of me are missing :)).




Sorry for going off the deep end, just mother jokes are bad for me this week (anniversary of mothers passing).
 
Kaapstad said:
It is not the physics which is the problem with Haswell, it's the low clockspeed which makes it hard to drive 4 cards to high fps.

For a single card on Haswell v SB it is a non contest in a benchmark, the Haswell wins every time. When you run 3 or 4 cards Haswell does not have the clockspeed to deal with them.
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Let me just get back to this a bit.

Are you saying SB at 4.9ghz is better than haswell at 4.5ghz if the number of cards increases?

I find it very hard to believe that a much slower sandy in everything else would suddenly perform better when you actually add more cards. Sure, both will bottleneck 3 titans, but the sandy will bottleneck em quicker due to being less powerful than the haswell in all aspects. (I picked the clockspeeds on purpose, but haswell still beats sand at 400mhz less).

I'm ready to stand corrected with a benchy/review though :P

I doubt anyone has tried running 3-4 titans with a sandy. Back when sandy was introduced you used to run 5xx series cards, and now with haswell you run 7xx.
 
Make said:
Let me just get back to this a bit.

Are you saying SB at 4.9ghz is better than haswell at 4.5ghz if the number of cards increases?

I find it very hard to believe that a much slower sandy in everything else would suddenly perform better when you actually add more cards. Sure, both will bottleneck 3 titans, but the sandy will bottleneck em quicker due to being less powerful than the haswell in all aspects. (I picked the clockspeeds on purpose, but haswell still beats sand at 400mhz less).

I'm ready to stand corrected with a benchy/review though :P
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Being a sandybridge user at 4.8ghz i for one hope Kaap is correct and wish him well in all his future endeavours regarding cpu statements.

Does it beat sandy by that much in game benchmarks though? Typically you see like 1-2fps between stock 2700k/3770k in game benchmarks.
 
Probably does not matter much at all, but I don't think it matters any more in Xfire than with Single cards, as the CPU for CPU comparable power is still the same.
 
thing is sandy is like 10 percent behind iv and haswell is upto 10-15 percent faster than ivy

so 20 percent probably difference so your 4.8 is like a 4ghz haswell.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
thing is sandy is like 10 percent behind iv and haswell is upto 10-15 percent faster than ivy

so 20 percent probably difference so your 4.8 is like a 4ghz haswell.
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I had a 2500k at 4.7ghz+ and my 4.7ghz haswell stomp on it.
its both the chip and also likely the chipset, so while some would say a 2500k is good enough for gaming, it is but not optimal.
Anyone going multi gpu would need to run 6core cpu or more.
a 3930k or such overclocked to 4.7ghz or more and then we talk some serious money for not much more performance especially if you game at 1920x0180.

My set up is a optimal as far I need, 5040x1050 eyefunity with 120hz screens run on a single 7970 atm. If I wanted better I either went sli/crossfire or Titan but paying 3 times as much for something I might gain a few % seems like silly at best.

So I think about what I do with my computer, I play most games maxed out already except fps shooters like BF4. so for me only benefit with for example a 290x is in one game. For many that would seem like an absurd upgrade for just one game, still if its fun its one I am likely to play for 2+ years or so and then a upgrade isnt as absurd.

I just hate to upgrade and I not feeling like I gained anything in practice which I can measure with my eyes as I game. And paying such money as the Titan is a like buying a car to me and that money I wouldnt pay even if I was rich.

I aim to have a performance curve with my eyefunity set up as immersive gaming take a leap with such set up, still wont go overboard with stuff to it, sold the 2500k and motherboard and had a upgrade for 160euro. That make sense to me ;)

Waiting for tomorow, 290x and soon BF4 beta.
 
I've got to say, some members here have the most bizarre arguments/slanging matches

A) Why would anybody favour one manufacturer over another? Having owned both Nvidia card and AMD cards over the years - I tend to buy whatever has the best price/performance at the time I need to upgrade.

These are corporations, they don't care for you in any way. Why do you care that one is better than the other?

B) Why are we arguing over performance of a card that hasn't been officially announced or benchmarked by multi sources?

If it's better than a Titan, great.
If it's not, no biggie
If it's cheaper than a Titan, great
If it's not, buy a Titan.

If you own a Titan and it's cheaper and 'better', tough luck but it doesn't make your Titan any worse. It'll still be an amazing card. That's the price you pay for being an early adopter.
 
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