I've been told, informed, that all cards on release are stock.
No idea if or when custom designs arrive.
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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory
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I've been told, informed, that all cards on release are stock.
No idea if or when custom designs arrive.
Can't say i care personally if it beats a titan if it's priced at or below a 780, it just needs to beat or as be as good as the 780? When i look to buy something i compare it with other items in the same price bracket. (obviously it would be good if it was better than titan im just saying).
Ideally they would price it lower and we might get a bit more comeptition price wise from both camps but i doubt it as too many people are willing to pay that amount for a card.
Ideally they would price it lower and we might get a bit more comeptition price wise from both camps but i doubt it as too many people are willing to pay that amount for a card.
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Yea...would rather it has equal performance to the GTX780 with a lower core clock speed and ask for a lower price, than beating Titan because of higher clock and charge more for the "factory overclock".
If we must pay more money for the extra performance, I want those extra performance coming from hardware physical parts, rather than higher clock...as I don't feel like paying extra for something I can do myself. That actually reminded me of how Nvidia crippled the voltage tweaking for the GTX680, and effectively stole performance from it to give to the GTX770 with higher base and boost clock to make it look like a much better card, despite sporting the same GPU.
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Disagree with a few of your negatives...as some are based on the Silicon Lottery...
Overclocking headroom appears fine in mines to be fair, mem especially.
Way too hot? Well that depends if you think 80C load is too hot, well ventilated case and it's fine, I've tried various cases, one which wasn't well ventilated was 90C load, so you need appropriate environment.
Coil whine can happen with any card, just your bad luck sadly as I have not a bit of coil whine in mines.
Driver wise you can disable crossfireX and run it as one core if you really want to, so crossfire can be disabled, not sure if this was an addition or not.
Unstable? Again I've had not one stability problem running the card...although again could be down to matured drivers etc.
Of course my experience may have been at a different time.
Am I missing something
R9 290X from dodgy review on Heaven 4
My stock Titan on Heaven 4
Absolutely no contest
I know Heaven 4 is not a game but it is a very good measure of raw GPU grunt. For example a HD 7970 will beat a GTX 680 and a HD 7990 will beat a GTX 690.
Just for fun compare the Temp of the R9 290X to my watercooled Titan.
Am i the only one who finds it very odd that the Platform and CPU is masked? i mean something like that could have a serious performance impact.
I agree , but for what was once sold as a £900 card i really wasnt impressed with what i got, and tbh £500 didnt make it easier to swallow either.
But as i said it depends what your doing with the card, in the mainstream titles i was playing the 7990 worked well, but there are so many games that i play where the 7990 just falls over.
I have a single 7970 at the moment and i have never had an issue with it, it plays everything without hassle, it clocks ok and i'll miss it when it gets replaced, in contrast the 7990 was in my mind too much of a compromise between compatability and perfomance.
You say you can disable crossfire now ? , i was using the 13.8 beta 2 frame pacing drivers and there was no option there and radeon pro had no option to do it either ? was this option added in later beta drivers because i see no mention in any release notes and nothing about it on any forums, if this had been the case when i had mine i would have kept it as the ability to disable the second gpu was a deal breaker for me.
Hopefully this month i'll have 2 x 290x's and i'll be as happy as i was with my old 7950 crossfire setup, but the longer this go's on the more i feel its going to be a damp squib
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But that's for 1600x900 res though?Am I missing something
R9 290X from dodgy review on Heaven 4
My stock Titan on Heaven 4
Absolutely no contest
I know Heaven 4 is not a game but it is a very good measure of raw GPU grunt. For example a HD 7970 will beat a GTX 680 and a HD 7990 will beat a GTX 690.
Just for fun compare the Temp of the R9 290X to my watercooled Titan.
The memory bandwidth advantage on the 290X would most likely not be apparent, until using res of 1920 or above, and/or settings such as SuperSampling. I honestly don't think the 290X's higher memory bandwidth would do anyway for Heaven, particular at just 1600 res.
I got a strong feeling that 290X isn't as powerful as the Titan in terms of raw grunt, but what's lacking in grunt, they are relying on the memory bandwidth to make up for it. Just my 2 cents.
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Agreed with this. I feel the higher the resolution and AA, the better the 290X will look. Not sure to what extent but time will tell.
If you look back through this thread (a couple of pages), you will see some leaked slides of game and 3D Mark bench results. They look genuine to me and a few others but others say they are fake.
I noticed it from pretty much the get go when I picked mines up in August for around £560. Crossfire X is an option to enable/disable essentially a tick box, some people weren't seeing this so it may have been a driver conflict or a certain Beta but every driver I've installed since the first one I've had to reselect Crossfire X for 2xGPU's to function.
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Not really. Even for 1920 res, there are more and more games becoming more memory intensive plus having the option to use SuperSampling. We dismissed this setting in the pass, simply because previously, cards simply don't have high enough memory bandwidth for it, and performance take too heavy a hit (we are talking about losing 50-55% of the frame rate). But now we have now came a long way from the 192GB/s of the GTX580 and GTX670...the 290X with 512-bit memory bus with 1250MHz on the memory clock can do 320GB/s out of the box (just for reference, a GTX780 need to overclock the memory clock to 1700MHz in order to hit 326GB/s)...and if the overclock on those memory used are not limited, overclocking the memory clock to 1500MHz would result in a memory bandwidth of 384GB/s, which is DOUBLE of what the stock GTX580 and GTX670 could do out of the box just 2-3 years ago.
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Super sampling is a killer. I'm not really convinced you need it (even at 1080p) but in some games it looks amazing. Metro Last Light with it at 4X is essentially the same as downscaling to 4K res...hence why it's such a killer on performance. Two Titans at least for lots of super sampling.
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But the trouble is, the framerate. Look at Heaven. If it were a game and you wanted to keep the framerate at optimum levels (60fps) you haven't really got anywhere to go.
Sure 290x's may fair better than Titan's on Heaven at 4k and 8xAA but then it will probably be the 290x's 20 fps vs the Titan's 16fps
It is the same argument that blights the 2gb vs 3gb discussion. In almost all occasions, by the time 2gb becomes the limiting factor for say a 680 vs a 7970, both are getting such low framerates it doesn't matter.
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People keep saying the GPU-Z readout is wrong, which it may well be - but weigh that against the stonking power draws shown so far...doesn't look good does it lol.