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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

LtMatt said:
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Obviously its not with max settings. That's fairly obvious.
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Of course but surely we need to see max settings (even if the 3GB bottoms out), else why would you want a 4K monitor. Certainly not to turn settings down....If you do that, stick with a 1600P or under monitor.
 
Kaapstad said:
If they used extreme for all those games the R9 290X would not run at all on some of them.

To me it still looks like a balancing act on a resolution no one is going to use to exploit the 4gb of the R9 290X to the max compared to the 3gb on the GTX 780. You could make the R9 290X look very bad by turning the settings up even more and comparing it to a 6gb Titan but what's the point of it.

We need some proper reviews fast.:)
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I expect its a High preset all round. No point using settings that neither card has either the grunt or vram for.
 
Indeed. I don't want to see benchmarks of games running without all the bells and whistles on at 4k. I cant see how that is useful to anyone apart from AMD ( simply to show the memory bandwith)

By the time 4k is a reality for 99% of people, the 290x will be old hat and wont be able to run the latest games at 4k anyway.
 
Gregster said:
Of course but surely we need to see max settings (even if the 3GB bottoms out), else why would you want a 4K monitor. Certainly not to turn settings down....If you do that, stick with a 1600P or under monitor.
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Well you'd need more than one card from either side to get anywhere close to max settings with playable fps. When just one gpu is involved I'd rather see playable fps even if a few details have to be sacrificed.

11 fps vs 14 fps isn't going to look very temping to me. :D

We all want more normal resolution benches, but 4k is the buzzword at the moment with both AMD and Nvidia.
 
LtMatt said:
I expect its a High preset all round. No point using settings that neither card has either the grunt or vram for.
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The Titan does though in SLI

If you are referring to the GTX 780 and 290X, then what is the point of using 4k if you can not max it.

If I was working for AMD, too right I would be demoing the 290X the way they are doing it.:D
 
for that chart to make sense some games would need be on max and some on medium, but it doesnt say that
pointless graph is pointless
 
MjFrosty said:
lol...seriously I'm speechless :D.


Those benchmark results seem mighty impressive. Enough with 4K already! 1440P!
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Interesting that the stock cooler is only on the 780gtx machine. Have they overclocked the cpu with the 290x and not the cpu with the 780? :p


I am sure they haven't :p .
 
Kaapstad said:
The Titan does though in SLI

If you are referring to the GTX 780 and 290X, then what is the point of using 4k if you can not max it.

If I was working for AMD, too right I would be demoing the 290X the way they are doing it.:D
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Yes but the titan is in a different price bracket and is not being compared here. This is single gpu comparison of equally priced products with similar vram amounts.

Mei said:
for that chart to make sense some games would need be on max and some on medium, but it doesnt say that
pointless graph is pointless
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I doubt any game is on max settings.
 
Jono8 said:
Interesting that the stock cooler is only on the 780gtx machine. Have they overclocked the cpu with the 290x and not the cpu with the 780? :p


I am sure they haven't :p .
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I'm not. The stock coolers are terrible. It's just poor show. The numbers don't really correlate with what Tomshardware have given us either.

hard to comment on Metro running so well considering we know very little how it plays at 4K really.
 
LtMatt said:
Well you'd need more than one card from either side to get anywhere close to max settings with playable fps. When just one gpu is involved I'd rather see playable fps even if a few details have to be sacrificed.

11 fps vs 14 fps isn't going to look very temping to me. :D
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Then use 1080p or 1600p.

Aim the results at their target market.:D
 
LtMatt said:
Well you'd need more than one card from either side to get anywhere close to max settings with playable fps. When just one gpu is involved I'd rather see playable fps even if a few details have to be sacrificed.

11 fps vs 14 fps isn't going to look very temping to me. :D

We all want more normal resolution benches, but 4k is the buzzword at the moment with both AMD and Nvidia.
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yea, 4K is a show off future feature the cards can do.
if amd didnt do it then Nvidia would run some PR about it.
multi gpu crossfire in eyefinity would be more interesting.

still the 290 serie might be the new Value/Performance high end beating 780, toe to toe with the Titan, I know what I buy then.
 
Nvidia sent out 3 Titans for reviewers to bench 4K with. AMD sent out one 290X and told them to turn the settings down :D:D:D Cheap skates.
 
Little more info from reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1onv1y/official_r9_290x_benchmarks/ccu3mo0

Originally Posted by Shadow_UGZ:
Just came back from the AMD event in Montreal and wanted to share the info I got. The event was in a small room with 3 AMD guys, 2 identical rigs (except for GPUS) and some refreshments.
I think the specs/benchmarks have already been posted so I'll just post some observations and other info I got from the AMD guys.
The 290X was MUCH smoother than the GTX 780 (The GTX780 was tearing like a mofo in Bioshock Infinite, painful to watch...)
The 290X has a "UBER-mode" switch on the side which he couldn't tell more about because of NDA
280X is still Tahiti but it's a "completely new ASIC"
Never Settle will not be bundled with R7/R9 series at launch but will be eventually. It will still be bundled with 7970, etc
The 290X was surprisingly very quiet and looks amazing (much better than GTX780 IMO, I love black)
290X is HDMI 1.4 (not 2.0, so it's limited to 30Hz @ 4K on HDMI)
NDA lifting this month "for sure"
They are testing some BETA drivers with 12K (3 x 4K) eyefinity support which they will be releasing soon
He would not let me run GPUz...
Very disappointed by 4K, expected a lot more. Not worth it IMO
I have some pics but they are very blurry, I can dump them in an imgur album if you guys really want to see them.
Here are the pictures: http://imgur.com/a/MEXNo
Just noticed why the GTX 780 was tearing so much when looking at the pictures: Minimum FPS
Bioshock Inifinite Benchmark
290X
Min: 33.0 FPS AVG: 43.3 FPS Max: 56.6 FPS
GTX 780
Min: 9.89 FPS Avg: 39.49 FPS Max: 59.21 FPS
Originally Posted byJuub:
-He also said their aim is to compete with the GTX 780 and not the Titan. Surprisingly, Bioshock Infinite had the 290x beating the 780 by about 15% but in Tomb Raider only about 5%. It's weird considering Bioshock tends to favor NVIDIA and Tomb Raider AMD. He couldn't reveal the price but he did tell me we'd be ''extremely happy'' about it. Considering it's aiming to compete with the 780, I wouldn't be surprised to see it priced lower.
-He didn't tell me Never Settle bundles will be eventually included with the R series, he simply told me people love bundles and it's a great incentive to buy so they'll definitely try to have some in the future.
-The Sharp monitors were both 4K 60HZ and 30''. They looked good but not nearly enough to justify their ridiculous price tags of 3,000$+. 4K doesn't look that much better than 1600p at that screen size but that's probably due to the screen being too small to display UHD in its full glory. Still, for those who absolutely want a 4K 27'', you'll be disappointed.
-290X is designed to run at 95c so it'll get hot but it won't throttle nor get damaged by this. This is the target they're aiming for. The GPU will run really hot but will still be stable.
-Mantle will be strictly up to the developers to use or not to use. They apparently have some big name players in the field who will use Mantle. Dice is the first big one but expect to see more in the near future. Mantle is what everyone say it is. It brings a console-like development environment to the PC. I wouldn't hold my breath for 20% better performance. I would however expect much smoother and better ports.
-The tech demo showing Ruby with the not so great TressFX had around 23 different effects designed by AMD and it was just a beta. A finished version will apparently look much better.
-CPU's running on both systems were i7-3960X.
-The AMD rep said he saw the rumors about the pricing online and the most widely accepted prices are ''completely wrong''.
-He couldn't reveal anything about the specs. No GPU-Z. Nothing. Just the cards as is.
I attempted to get the price out of him by first asking how much the monitors were worth and then by asking how much the whole system was worth. He didn't bite.
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The type of buyer who will purchase on of the new 4k screens won't think twice about sticking 3 or 4 290x GPUs into their rig so whether it runs well on one or two cards is moot.

Same individual might have already purchased 2x7990 cards anyway.

It's one of those things that once you have seen 4k running, going back is hard. It don't see it as a technology which is going to be the thing in 2015, it's going to happen as soon as Asus release their screen.

That said, there are only a few types of game I would consider for 4k, typically your slower paced RTS and adventure titles.

PS. this uber mode switch, could it be for the water-cooled community?
 
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95C target temp? I'm not saying nuffin :D

Both systems were not identical. One has a hench cooler the other does not. That's seriously fishy lol. These real reviews can't come soon enough, getting tired of the speculation and doubt. They're certainly not helping themselves with small details such as that. Why not use the same CPU cooler on both test rigs. The low minimum FPS on the 780 is further reason to believe their might be some CPU related trickery.

love a good conspiracy. :D
 
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