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AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

No offense taken bud, you seem to be trying to discredit any review site / video review which says anything negative about the 290X, i.e slower when overclocked. The 290X looks like a great performing card at stock, the general consensus from all the reviews is that AMD sacrificed heat / noise / temps to get their, and limited overclocking as well. Those things can't just be ignored, surely not every review that mentions that is wrong?

There's only one review what shows that, Linus. No doubt using voltage control on a 780 vs a voltage locked 290. ;)
 
To be fair though, going from Gibbo's own review, the limitation really seem to be more on the stock cooler than the card and its components itself. But even with the stock cooler, he has managed to push the core clock to 1200MHz and memory clock to 6400MHz (so far), but of course the noise level would probably be deafening :p.

He also said its faster than the 1300mhz 780 they tested in case Broom missed that one, but never mind. :D
 
Um.. Not sure if serious..

Starting to think that maybe you work for AMD.. Damage control anyone? Lol.

Here's a few examples. There are lot's, lot's more.

(OC3D)




(Anandtech)




(Tom's Hardware)



(Bit Tech)



(Tech Spot)




(Tech Power Up)

What are you trying to prove? The card does not overclock well? None of these reviews had voltage control. Gibbo already got one up to 1200 core with a bit of voltage. Also 12% overclocking without voltage control is pretty good i think. None of those conclusions say a overclocked 780 is faster than a overclocked 290.
 
You should see the comments he made regarding the 290x in the gibbo overclocking thread. I mentioned that if/when the 780 got a price drop than it's comparable performance would be equally as impressive (since they score better/similarly when overclocked).

His retort?

He never mentioned the 780 and doesn't care if it gets a price drop, his observation was simply the 290x had impressive performance at 1200/1500 and that it matched 7950 crossfire at stock.

Summed it up perfectly for me.

The comment i made was in the 290X thread, shock horror! I said a 290X scored the same as my 7950 crossfire setup. Then i compared a similar score from a titan. That was it. I don't see a problem there personally.

Why would i mention a 780 and a price drop? I didn't talk about prices anywhere. I never even mentioned the 290X pricing when i was comparing. You've lost me to be honest and it seems as though you're looking for an argument or reading into something that i didn't say.

The 290X would be great for an LN2 bencher, I imagine people will break some records, but what about peeps with everyday cases? Who wants a 95c part in their case?

I'd quite happily have a 95c part in my case. I'd just turn the fan up a bit and run it cooler. Easily done. I'd also enjoy titan beating performance at stock for £430. Each to their own and all that.
 
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it is astoundingly impressive, same 28nm node and a single card manage to match 7950 crossfire. I stated a 290x OC would came close to 7990 performance and that is amazing value.
with mantle and bf4 I dont find any reason why someone would buy a 780/780ti etc..especially if their main gaming is BF4 and other frostbite 3 games no matter if there is pricecuts or not from nvidia.

Be interesting to see how it compares in games. I reckon the 290X might fall a bit further behind in games vs my stock 7950 crossfire setup but it will be interesting to compare.
 
Because you directly quoted my comment regarding the performance of 780 and posted a non-relevant lower score of a titan, fair enough if you were just doing it to placate your own interest but as a response to my comment it made no sense?

I'm not looking for an argument at all but everything you write points to a serious bias towards AMD cards. It's a great card but maybe take of the red tinted goggles for a second and accept that the card is not devoid of fault. It's hot, power hungry and without any non-reference coolers at release. Great performance but for the majority of people who want to get the best performance out of the card they'll either need a waterblock or have to wait 1-2 months for non-ref cards.

61DB at load in uber mode (which based on most reviews is needed to sustain 1000mhz clock speeds) is unacceptable.

I didn't even mean to quote you, which ive now gone back and removed. Must have quoted you on +quote by accident.

I never said the card is not devoid of fault. I've had plenty of AMD cards so know how hot they run and how loud they can be. Reference or otherwise, it doesn't bother me. I'll just enjoy the price vs performance of it. I had a 7970 reference for a long time and that thing was just as hot and loud as a 290X, only that didn't have a quiet mode. On quiet mode the 290X is running at 85-90c. I'd just put the fan up like i did with my reference 7970 to keep temps lower. I have excellent airflow in my case so id expect even lower temps. I'd likely change the paste as well to drop temps further. Then further down the line id stick an accelero on there and keep temps around 60c overclocked.

So as much as you like to point out faults, ill point out the other side of things as i see it.
 
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Good find.

Kaap take note of the 4k part.

This is going to be the same situation we had with the 7950/70 vs 670/680. When the going gets tough at high res/details/AA/supersampling the bus size makes the difference.

R9 290X vs. TITAN

The R9 290X is performance comparable to the GeForce GTX TITAN at 2560x1600 (1600p) and lower (1080p.) In every game we played we were able to match the same gameplay experience as the GeForce GTX TITAN. That means that every game played the same between both video cards, the same performance, same in-game settings, and same smoothness. Performance in terms of frames per second was either right under, or right at TITAN FPS performance. The performance differences were so insignificant that those did not translate to any noticeable gameplay differences at all.

The situation changes when the Radeon R9 290X is pushed up to Ultra HD 4K display resolutions. Whatever magic AMD is doing at 4K, it is working. We found that the Radeon R9 290X was faster in every game compared to the GeForce GTX TITAN at 3840x2160. It wasn't just a little bit faster either, it was anywhere from 10-23% faster. This is a significant difference. At 4K resolutions, you need every bit of performance you can get to achieve playable performance at high in-game settings on a single video card. The Radeon R9 290X is clearly the card for Ultra HD 4K.

Saunce
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/10/23/amd_radeon_r9_290x_video_card_review/16#.Umj3FvkcSM9


Think thats the first time ive ever seen HardOCP and Pcper both give a Gold Award to an AMD card the 290X.
 
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The 290X at 55% sounds like my 7950 Ice-Q's at their higher speed settings. Not that bad tbh once inside a case.

At 100%, jet engine. Oh yeah, i remember that reference cooler now! :D

Scotty99 said:
So ya, found out why these fans are locked to 55% max:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhqOKKAq7o

Arizonian said:
Pretty loud. If you don't game with head set that can be bothersome. However at uber 55% was no louder than my 690 at full load.

They're not capped. The two onboard BIOS 'quite' is capped 40% and Uber at 50%.

You can raise the threshold fan control with AMD Overdrive. It will reach max set fan speed by the time it hits 95c. It will dynamically lower core clock once it hits the temp threshold set. From what I read as temps go down the fan will auto adjust lower as well. You can even raise the temp threshold as 95c is suggested as comfortable. Not sure on temp limit though and how much she can really take.
 
I'm sounding like a broken record, but the driver thing is very important :) Launch vs tuned mature drivers means AMD's results are at their worst possible now.

True. 99% of reviews say the 290X is faster than the 780/titan overall and much cheaper. Only cherry picked reviews or benchmarks will show otherwise. The 780/Titan also offer other benefits which have been well documented but on pure performance the 290X is now the fastest. The 290X will get faster as well as drivers mature and overclocking becomes possible.
 
could the 7970 not sit at 95C ? without throttling

so why the fuss about the 290x being designed to run at 95C - most modern GPU chips do that can't they ?

so why pick 95C for this card and not the 7970 ? or is it the lowest they could get it without the fans being annoying ?

7970 was built to operate up to 90c at stock speeds. However if you were overclocking you had to keep it below 80c. Larger overclocks below 75-70c. Extreme overclocks often 65c or lower.
 
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