Soldato
So miners are buying AMD cards and not gamers?
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AMD RADEON RX 470 SERIES NOW AVAILABLE FROM £164.99 DELIVERED!!
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So does that mean only a person under the age of full legal responsibility can buy this card ?
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Caporegime
Nvidia for gaming, AMD for mining
AMD are also rather good at video encoding, and saving on the gas bill in the winter.
Soldato
Yea this is my problem with the reviewers. They are just plain lazy it seems.
Why not just get a guy pay him a salary to sit there and benchmark new cards on all the games properly every time. Then I would shut up about the whole thing
Soldato
i like how £150 is classed as budget, wouldnt say the 380 was a budget card for its performance.
while i agree the pricing is stupid for the 470, there are people out there who cant afford to stretch that '£40-65' extra(ill just go to my money tree), so want the best performance they can buy that is of a new product which is probably why amd made these cards to start with, that or the theories are correct and its the failed 480's
while i agree the pricing is stupid for the 470, there are people out there who cant afford to stretch that '£40-65' extra(ill just go to my money tree), so want the best performance they can buy that is of a new product which is probably why amd made these cards to start with, that or the theories are correct and its the failed 480's
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More than likely, Once they have a part that can compete with cards like the 1070 & 1080 they will expect to get just as much for it as Nvidia do for there's. I'm honestly not expecting Vega performance to go past the 1080 but we can hope.
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I felt like I was really pushing the boat out when I bought my 7850 for 149.99 back in October 2012
Before then I'd made do with cards like the 8600, 5570 and 6770.
Caporegime
Yeah same, i reckon just a Fury with more memory, that needs less power than those, and for the 390 owners to upgrade too, we'll have to go to Nvidia for our upgrades.
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460 perf leaked
http://videocardz.com/63033/gigabyte-radeon-rx-460-windforce-2x-performance-leaked
Wow, it's worse than a 7850/ 370. A fair bit worse.
Who in their right mind is buying this card at £100+....
http://videocardz.com/63033/gigabyte-radeon-rx-460-windforce-2x-performance-leaked
Wow, it's worse than a 7850/ 370. A fair bit worse.
Who in their right mind is buying this card at £100+....
Soldato
It's crap. £50 no more.
Caporegime
Apparently at one of the OcUK competitors a £123 4GB GTX750TI is one of their best selling cards - LMAO. You can get a GTX950 2GB for the same price or an older R7 270 in the past for something similar.
Looks like another set of meh sub £150 launches.
I suspected as much when the RX460 was gimped to 896 shaders instead of the 1024 shaders in cards like the WX4100.
At 1024 shaders,ie,14% more it would have been closer to a GTX950 IMHO.
Not sure how AMD is having yield issues with such a small GPU.
Edit!!
I had a look at the comments of the article. Here is the original review before it was pulled:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...strix_gaming_chlodny_i_cichy_polaris?page=0,0
Just change the last number in the URL to the page number and you can see the slides.
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Soldato
May not be having yield issues, they may be being diverted to console usage.
Isn't PS4K meant to use a Polaris derivative, and Scorpio will need something...
May well be they are diverting to stockpiles for the consoles to fulfill contractual obligations and are struggling to keep up both chains fulfilled.
Judging by Gibbo's feedback as well, the Polaris cards have been a major success, so if that success is being seen in other places as well, it really could simply be they are shifting a LOT of cards to retailers and OEMs.
Look at the success off the Wii...Nintendo simply couldn't build enough of them!
Isn't PS4K meant to use a Polaris derivative, and Scorpio will need something...
May well be they are diverting to stockpiles for the consoles to fulfill contractual obligations and are struggling to keep up both chains fulfilled.
Judging by Gibbo's feedback as well, the Polaris cards have been a major success, so if that success is being seen in other places as well, it really could simply be they are shifting a LOT of cards to retailers and OEMs.
Look at the success off the Wii...Nintendo simply couldn't build enough of them!
Caporegime
The Neo has a Polaris 10 chip with 2304 shaders and the Scorpio might be having 50+ CUs from what The DigitalFoundry are saying.
Apparently Polaris 11 might have an Apple laptop win,but that WX4100 has a full chip with 1024 shaders running at 975MHZ base clockspeed:
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/10521/W4100_575px.jpg
Low profile and single slot too.
I looked through that review:
1.)3DMark Timespy it beats a GTX750TI and an R7 370,and is just behind a GTX950
2.)Crysis 3 it matches a GTX750TI but losses to an R7 370
3.)Doom under Vulkan it losses to a GTX750TI and an R7 370
4.)Fallout 4 is beats a GTX750TI and is just behind an R7 370
5.)Far Cry Primal it beats a GTX750TI and losses to the R7 370,but is just behind a GTX950
6.)Hitman it beats a GTX750TI and is just behind an R7 370
7.)Project Cars it beats a GTX750TI and is just behind an R7 370
8.)Rise of the Tomb Raider it beats a GTX750TI and an R7 370 and is just behind a GTX950
9.)Witcher 3: Wild Hunt it beats a GTX750TI and is just behind an R7 370
10.)XCOM 2 it beats a GTX750TI but is beaten by a R7 370
Apparently Polaris 11 might have an Apple laptop win,but that WX4100 has a full chip with 1024 shaders running at 975MHZ base clockspeed:
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/10521/W4100_575px.jpg
Low profile and single slot too.
I looked through that review:
1.)3DMark Timespy it beats a GTX750TI and an R7 370,and is just behind a GTX950
2.)Crysis 3 it matches a GTX750TI but losses to an R7 370
3.)Doom under Vulkan it losses to a GTX750TI and an R7 370
4.)Fallout 4 is beats a GTX750TI and is just behind an R7 370
5.)Far Cry Primal it beats a GTX750TI and losses to the R7 370,but is just behind a GTX950
6.)Hitman it beats a GTX750TI and is just behind an R7 370
7.)Project Cars it beats a GTX750TI and is just behind an R7 370
8.)Rise of the Tomb Raider it beats a GTX750TI and an R7 370 and is just behind a GTX950
9.)Witcher 3: Wild Hunt it beats a GTX750TI and is just behind an R7 370
10.)XCOM 2 it beats a GTX750TI but is beaten by a R7 370
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So basically, if youre a PC gamer, and you want half decent performance, forget AMD... because they're gimping their discreet GPUs in favour of consoles & workstation cards...
Only nVidia are interseted in putting out proper PC gaming GPUs, and they want both your kidneys for the privilege...
Well, if the Polaris chips in the next-gen consoles really are much better than the dross we're getting, that really should make some of us question the sense in staying with PC gaming.
Only nVidia are interseted in putting out proper PC gaming GPUs, and they want both your kidneys for the privilege...
Well, if the Polaris chips in the next-gen consoles really are much better than the dross we're getting, that really should make some of us question the sense in staying with PC gaming.
Caporegime
Except under £200 Nvidia still has mostly rubbish cards now - even the old R9 380X is a better card and that is from a GTX960 owner. Even the meh R9 380 is showing up the GTX960 and that Tonga was a repurposed GPU for Apple it appears with more voltage to up the clockspeeds.
I was one of the mugs who bought it too,and look even in that review,the R9 380 is showing the GTX960 a clean pair of heels even in FO4 - FO4 FFS!!
Also the hope of Nvidia producing anything decent was dashed with the GTX1050 being a 3GB card.Even if it ends up being a bit quicker than a RX470 with 3GB of VRAM we know how long that is going to last....!
Nvidia has just set such a low performance target under £200 and emphasised saving power over performance and loads of people bought into it - this is why a £123 GTX750TI is a best seller at another retailer over a GTX950.
Now AMD is doing the same but their cards under £200 tended to outperform what Nvidia had before,so decided to do a Nvidia and cut power consumption since they believe it will make their cards sell better.
Its almost like both want to upsell £200 cards and above now if you want decent performance.
According to JPR,that is the "enthusiast" market,so we know what they are trying to do - get more gamers to buy enthusiast class cards.
I CBA with this whole gen now - going to just push this card until next year and see how things go.
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Yup I was hoping to buy a 960 last gen but it was utter rubbish.
I think the £150 price point is effectively phased out. There are no good £150 gaming cards.
Going forwards, £200-£220 is the new "low-mid" price range. Under that there is nothing. Nothing that you can game with.
I think the £150 price point is effectively phased out. There are no good £150 gaming cards.
Going forwards, £200-£220 is the new "low-mid" price range. Under that there is nothing. Nothing that you can game with.