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AMD RADEON RX 470 SERIES NOW AVAILABLE FROM £164.99 DELIVERED!!

Tommy_Here said:
some people don't buy for the future like me, I buy for NOW and currently the 1060 offers better performance, only recently have the amd cards back in 2013 pushed past their competitors 290x > 780 Ti. no one has a crystal ball and in till dx21 etc becomes mainstream only then we'll see the true benefits.
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That argument is starting to get boring - yes, buy now and get the 5fps extra you always needed right now at 1080p.... Such a mind blowing difference! 60vs65 FPS ... oh the 60fps feels so much slower my games won't play, oh no!

The little difference it makes right now makes no difference. Not saying AMD will pull out much further ahead in the future but they're pretty much comparable so buy depending on your liking or pricing but arguing over 0-10% fps best case scenario is just stupid. It will make 0 difference to your gameplay.
 
PhoenixUK said:
That argument is starting to get boring - yes, buy now and get the 5fps extra you always needed right now at 1080p.... Such a mind blowing difference! 60vs65 FPS ... oh the 60fps feels so much slower my games won't play, oh no!

The little difference it makes right now makes no difference. Not saying AMD will pull out much further ahead in the future but they're pretty much comparable so buy depending on your liking or pricing but arguing over 0-10% fps best case scenario is just stupid. It will make 0 difference to your gameplay.
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Sorry it gets tiresome when my GTX660 and GTX960 were both beaten over time by their AMD equivalents. People said the same about the GTX660 and GTX960 and we saw where that went.
What about the GTX660TI against the HD7950BE/R9 280??

The GTX960 went from trading blows with the R9 285/R9 380 to being demolished in certain games(DX11 ones at that too) -
people want to ignore things like that,since IF it happens to the GTX1060 in another year,then they can talk about the blasted GTX2060 and how brilliant it is.

My GTX660 did last a bit longer,but the HD7870 did the same.

The thing is at under £200 it is one thing but the RX480 8GB and GTX1060 6GB are not sub £200 cards. They cost more than the R9 380 and GTX960 they replace.

Hardware enthusiasts might change their £200+ cards every year,but for many of us(including almost everybody I know),we want at least a few years out of a £200 to £300 card,and looking at the GTX660,GTX660TI and GTX960,it has been not so good. Even the GTX970 started to lose its performance advantage over the R9 290/390 series cards,and that was considered one of the best sub £300 cards Nvidia made in years.

The R9 290 series for all the criticisms have held off the GTX780 and then the GTX970,and AMD only have themselves to blame for packaging it for a crap cooler and making it look worse than it was.

I love certain aspects of the GTX1060(as with a blower cooler it looks better than a RX480) but at the same time,I don't want it another year down the line for it to be thrashed in DX12 titles. Volta is only out at the end of next year,and like with Maxwell,Pascal will be probably forgotten about.

At least with the PS4 Neo having a Polaris 10 chip,at least it might buy it some longevity and I expect that is why the R9 290/390 series have done OK. The PS4 and XBox One have GCN1.1 chips and the PS4 had the first 8 ACE AMD GPU too.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Sorry it gets tiresome when my GTX660 and GTX960 were both beaten over time by their AMD equivalents. People like you said the same about the GTX660 and GTX960 and we saw where that went.
What about the GTX660TI against the HD7950BE/R9 280??

The GTX960 went from trading blows with the R9 285/R9 380 to being demolished in certain games(DX11 ones at that too) -
people want to ignore things like that,since IF it happens to the GTX1060 in another year,then they can talk about the blasted GTX2060 and how brilliant it is.

My GTX660 did last a bit longer,but the HD7870 did the same.

The thing is at under £200 it is one thing but the RX480 8GB and GTX1060 6GB are not sub £200 cards. They cost more than the R9 380 and GTX960 they replace.

Hardware enthusiasts might change their £200+ cards every year,but for many of us(including almost everybody I know),we want at least a few years out of a £200 to £300 card,and looking at the GTX660,GTX660TI and GTX960,it has been not so good. Even the GTX970 started to lose its performance advantage over the R9 290/390 series cards,and that was considered one of the best sub £300 cards Nvidia made in years.

The R9 290 series for all the criticisms have held off the GTX780 and then the GTX970,and AMD only have themselves to blame for packaging it for a crap cooler and making it look worse than it was.
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+1 i looked at the powercolor r7 470 review on guru3d and I was working out the fps between 380x and the rx's. What suprised me was how well the ancient tahiti was performing at 1080p compared to older gen nvidias.
 
The problem is Nvidia is going to launch the GTX1050 3GB to counter the RX470 4GB. I expect it will be reasonably faster for the GPU,but with only 3GB of VRAM will fall of a cliff quite quickly with regards to performance,just like the 8800GT 256MB did against the 8800GT 512MB.

Its almost like AMD and Nvidia want to upsell the RX480 and GTX1060 IMHO.

Its a joke when the Powercolor RX470 AIB card was £165 to £182 in the US(it jumped in price to £182) and its £200 in the UK.

On US forums they are moaning that AIB RX470 cards are £182(if we add VAT).

Whats the point?? You might as well buy a reference RX480 4GB or a AIB RX480 4GB.

I fully expect the RX480 4GB to become EOL now!! :(
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The problem is Nvidia is going to launch the GTX1050 3GB to counter the RX470 4GB. I expect it will be reasonably faster for the GPU,but with only 3GB of VRAM will fall of a cliff quite quickly with regards to performance,just like the 8800GT 256MB did against the 8800GT 512MB.

Its almost like AMD and Nvidia want to upsell the RX480 and GTX1060 IMHO.

Its a joke when the Powercolor RX470 AIB card was £165 to £182 in the US(it jumped in price to £182) and its £200 in the UK.

On US forums they are moaning that AIB RX470 cards are £182(if we add VAT).

Whats the point?? You might as well buy a reference RX480 4GB or a AIB RX480 4GB.

I fully expect the RX480 4GB to become EOL now!! :(
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I really don't know if Nvidia will even bother with their 1050 plans, the RX470 is so close to the 480 that they would have to make the 1050 cheaper than it to compete.
 
CoolioMcCool said:
I really don't know if Nvidia will even bother with their 1050 plans, the RX470 is so close to the 480 that they would have to make the 1050 cheaper than it to compete.
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Neither company are interested in selling a gaming GPU at £150.

Both sides want the prices to start at £200+. Any less that that you get a HTPC card these days.

I'll bet you here and now Vega pricing starts at £500 for the most cut-down part.
 
FoxEye said:
Posts like this really don't help.

The 480 just about manages 60 FPS in games at high/ultra. A 7850 does about 20 FPS at those settings.

To get a 7850 to 40 FPS you need to drop to medium settings, and getting 50+ FPS means low settings.

Seriously, when I sold my 7850 a year or so ago, it couldn't play game modern games at decent settings above 40 FPS. It is not "fine" for 1080p.
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Yeah, I am upgrading to the RX 470 after my 7850 died. Most recent games I could maintain at about 60fps at lowest settings at 1080p. A lot would only give me 30 or so, even on lowest (Fallout 4, X-Com 2 and Total Warhammer are notable examples)
 
I ended up cancelling my order for the reference one yesterday and went with the 4GB Nitro instead. I'm feeling quite confident in the purchase after watching that video. I know it's price isn't great but i didn't want to spend more than £200 on a card and it seems to be the best bet for under that price.

Can't wait to get stuck into The Witcher 3, been putting off playing it so i could play it maxed on a new card :)
 
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