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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

humbug said:
I think the reference 7900XTX will be £1100.

AIB ones £100 to £400 more expensive than that but also up to 25% faster with board powers of up to 500 watts.
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If they are 25% faster there's a real possibility they could be faster in raster than 4090s (assuming the expected performance comes into fruitition)
 
Nexus18 said:
Have a read of developers comments on ray tracing, the main thing for RT is to reduce development costs and time.

Taken from 4a enhanced:

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Will any of that lead to more games or less expensive games?

If it has no noticable impact on either, of what relevance is it to the consumer purchase of a gaming GPU?
 
VersionMonkey said:
Will any of that lead to more games or less expensive games?

If it has no noticable impact on either, of what relevance is it to the consumer purchase of a gaming GPU?
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It's also irrelevant, because only a select few cards are able to run RT at a playable level.

Meaning it doesn't matter if it's faster for developers to implement RT over traditional methods because they would still need to implement the traditional methods anyway less they alienate a significant chunk of their potential audience.
 
Shaz12 said:
On the console side, Sony put the time and resources to implement VRR,120hz and 1440p support and the vast majority of that audience do not have an expensive TV/monitor which support either. Tech advancement cannot be stopped just because something does not work on the majority of hardware.
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Sony were playing catch-up to Microsoft with those as the Xbox already had them.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
I go away for 2 hours and it devolves into nothing but Ray Tracing talk again. I am beginning to think these threads aren't even worth it.
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RT gets brought up as it is the only thing Nvidia has which is directly gaming related.
I would argue PhysX but I doubt most folks go back to old games to enjoy it, I won't miss it.
 
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Tired9 said:
RT gets brought up as it is the only thing Nvidia has which is directly gaming related.
I would argue PhysX but I doubt most folks go back to old games to enjoy it, I won't miss it.
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I understand and I get Nvidia are better at it, but seriously they don't even give credit to other aspects of RDNA3, it's just RT comments over and over.
 
Joxeon said:
AMD are not tailgating nvidia on raster though, at $900 the raster performance for Ada was somewhere between a 3080 and 3090 while AMD is looking at delivering +50% more. That card is now set to be cut down further and relaunched as a 4070ti but I doubt it'll cost less than $700 so will be up against the 7800XT which should easily be 30%+ faster in raster, that's almost a generational lead.
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The pricing for the Ada mid-tier is messed up. The performance is there, its just priced wrong. The 4080 should go below 999 and the 4080 Ti at 1200 makes sense. Its extremely competitive that way.

IMO Nvidia can get away with pricing the 4090 as it is because its the fastest card but that won't work with the 4080 because AMD has noticeably faster raster performance.
 
Shaz12 said:
The pricing for the Ada mid-tier is messed up. The performance is there, its just priced wrong. The 4080 should go below 999 and the 4080 Ti at 1200 makes sense. Its extremely competitive that way.

IMO Nvidia can get away with pricing the 4090 as it is because its the fastest card but that won't work with the 4080 because AMD has noticeably faster raster performance.
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Below 800.
 
4080 is not looking bad in the benchmarks released today by Chinese on chiphell. The 4080 appears to trade blows with the 7900xtx
 
Grim5 said:
4080 is not looking bad in the benchmarks released today by Chinese on chiphell. The 4080 appears to trade blows with the 7900xtx
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from memory, that would mean Nvidia were sandbagging when they released performance data for the 4080, because that thing was barely faster than a 3090ti in nvidias cherry picked benches
 
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VersionMonkey said:
Will any of that lead to more games or less expensive games?

If it has no noticable impact on either, of what relevance is it to the consumer purchase of a gaming GPU?
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My post was in reference to kirbys comments of ray tracing being too much work for a small section of the market hence why I linked to the 4a enhanced article as metro ee on consoles is fully RT and runs at 60 fps. and they have stated in black and white there, how it has improved basically every thing to do with development and why any future titles they will be using the same approach now.

kieran_read said:
It's also irrelevant, because only a select few cards are able to run RT at a playable level.

Meaning it doesn't matter if it's faster for developers to implement RT over traditional methods because they would still need to implement the traditional methods anyway less they alienate a significant chunk of their potential audience.
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We need to stop referring to titles like CP 2077 maxed out and looking at what RT can achieve when done from the ground up as 4a enhanced have proved although that is on game developers and not gamers nor even amd/nvidia to an extent... Metro ee runs extremely well on "all" RT capable hardware.

Agree on last comment, that's why developers need to drop old gen consoles already and once they see the likes of 1060 owners move on to RT capable hardware.

Sargatanas2511 said:
I go away for 2 hours and it devolves into nothing but Ray Tracing talk again. I am beginning to think these threads aren't even worth it.
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TBF, the thread hasn't been of topic for past 10 pages or so now, instead all been talk about the 4080 and nvidia "mindshare" :)
 
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Shaz12 said:

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Ok and how does @Grim5 know "that will trade blows with the 7900XTX"?

Do we have for example any actual comparisons? I mean comparing it to the 7900XTX would be a silly thing for me to ask for given its never been reviewed so we don't know anything about it, so how about a 3090Ti? or a 4090?

I was expecting leaked 7900XTX benchmarks, shame, should have know tho....
 
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humbug said:
Ok and how does @Grim5 know "that will trade blows with the 7900XTX"?

Do we have for example any actual comparisons? I mean comparing it to the 7900XTX would be a silly thing for me to ask for given its never been reviewed so we don't know anything about it, so how about a 3090Ti? or a 4090?

I was expecting leaked 7900XTX benchmarks, shame, should have know tho....
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Being that these are unconfirmed and there are no benches like these with any RDNA3 product short of what AMD have said, I have no idea how you could say anything really.
 
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