AMD RX 580 and RX 560 leak

Rroff · 5 Apr 2017 at 19:30

fs123 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/63louu/gpuz_rx_580_from_chiphell_leaked/

Look at that clockspeed. A decent jump if true.

Weird if GPU-Z doesn't recognise a GPU then it normally can't read the clock speed correctly - also release data and GPU string don't usually generate valid data if GPU-Z hasn't been updated for that GPU.

nashathedog · 6 Apr 2017 at 11:08

SiDeards73 said:
Im actually wondering if there will be reference 580s? when they respun the 290 to 390 they didnt bother, would be nice if they done the same?

It would make sense if they did, Not having reference models had a positive effect on the big 300's reputation,

nashathedog · 6 Apr 2017 at 11:15

LoadsaMoney said:
Nvidia are putting their old 1080 prices back up as well according to Gibbo, back to over £500 for them in a couple of weeks, wtf is going on

That's probably to create rush purchasing, That or Nvidia have more info than us on Vega. With Fiji AMD got 3 cards from one chip. Imagine if small Vega got used in 2 cards (580 & 590) and big Vega got used in 3, the Vega Nano, Vega pro and Vega X.

It's annoying still knowing so little about it.

nashathedog · 6 Apr 2017 at 11:28

Cyber-Mav said:
If thats true then dont see the point unless it has less heat output and lower power consumption too. Or its cheaper than the 480

LoadsaMoney said:
Haha yeah, once Vega comes out, drop em to £350

AMD often do the unexpected, Look at the 7850, It became the R7 265 nd then it went up one on the next gen and became the R7 370.

Sargatanas2511 · 6 Apr 2017 at 13:01

nashathedog said:
AMD often do the unexpected, Look at the 7850, It became the R7 265 nd then it went up one on the next gen and became the R7 370.

Both companies do that to be fair. 8800 > 980 > GTS 250 as an example.

Supernova · 6 Apr 2017 at 13:04

Videocardz have posted a listing for an Asus 580 at £326. Ouch

Freddie1980 · 6 Apr 2017 at 13:17

MSTRBKR said:
Videocardz have posted a listing for an Asus 580 at £326. Ouch

If £300+ is the going retail price then that should give some clue to it's expected level of performance (around 1070 levels).

Supernova · 6 Apr 2017 at 18:10

Freddie1980 said:
If £300+ is the going retail price then that should give some clue to it's expected level of performance (around 1070 levels).

Yes, hopefully it's that.

opethdisciple · 6 Apr 2017 at 18:14

Freddie1980 said:
If £300+ is the going retail price then that should give some clue to it's expected level of performance (around 1070 levels).

A 1070 level card from AMD is maybe what I'm looking for.... But Polaris based? :confused:

N19h7m4r3 · 6 Apr 2017 at 18:20

opethdisciple said:
A 1070 level card from AMD is maybe what I'm looking for.... But Polaris based?

Could be Tonga based for all people would care. It just needs to deliver on price to performance.

Cyber-Mav · 7 Apr 2017 at 21:51

MSTRBKR said:
Videocardz have posted a listing for an Asus 580 at £326. Ouch

Gtx 580? Thats old

Phixsator · 8 Apr 2017 at 08:51

opethdisciple said:
A 1070 level card from AMD is maybe what I'm looking for.... But Polaris based?

N19h7m4r3 said:
Could be Tonga based for all people would care. It just needs to deliver on price to performance.

I think the weird part about this if it is polaris based is that a current polaris chip would need more than just a 1450 core clock to match 1070 performance if we are using the rx 480 as a reference.

HeX · 8 Apr 2017 at 09:27

No way that's the real price, it'll be priced close to the current 480.

Low end Vega i can see being £300+.

TNA · 8 Apr 2017 at 09:31

Cyber-Mav said:
Gtx 580? Thats old

Not much older than your 780

Seanspeed · 8 Apr 2017 at 09:36

With the Scorpio having a 40CU Polaris GPU, could AMD have a dedicated 40CU chip for PC, too?

Either way, raising the price by like £100 is a joke. No way that's real. Nvidia would gobble that up no problem. Slight price drop for 1070 and they're stealing AMD's lunch.

SiDeards73 · 8 Apr 2017 at 10:22

Those have to be placeholder prices, no way a clocked 480 aka 580 is going to be £330 while not delivering even close to 1070 performance.

I moved from a decently clocked 290 tri-x to a 1070 Amp Extreme and the difference is night and day.

I'd take atleast £80 of that price maybe more

Rroff · 8 Apr 2017 at 10:35

Phixsator said:
I think the weird part about this if it is polaris based is that a current polaris chip would need more than just a 1450 core clock to match 1070 performance if we are using the rx 480 as a reference.

IIRC 1500MHz on the 480 brings it up just behind 1070 performance but not quite catching it - der8auer managed 12.8K in Firestrike for instance while a stock 1070 is around 13-13.4K.

Seanspeed · 8 Apr 2017 at 11:10

Rroff said:
IIRC 1500MHz on the 480 brings it up just behind 1070 performance but not quite catching it - der8auer managed 12.8K in Firestrike for instance while a stock 1070 is around 13-13.4K.

Who cares about an artificial benchmark?

Would it actually be close to a 1070 in *games*? I doubt it outside of heavily AMD-favored titles.

Nate75 · 8 Apr 2017 at 11:22

Does Firestrike favour AMD ie dx 12 stuff (apologies if that's a silly question..)?

Phixsator · 8 Apr 2017 at 14:38

Rroff said:
IIRC 1500MHz on the 480 brings it up just behind 1070 performance but not quite catching it - der8auer managed 12.8K in Firestrike for instance while a stock 1070 is around 13-13.4K.

huh.. did not know that.. pretty impressive.. now i just feel a bit sad that my asus rx 480 clocks worse than a wet noodle.