AMD RX6000 series cracked dies and blown voltage rails after December driver update?

Vince · 18 Jan 2023 at 16:43

did they pull the driver? Just checked on mine because I basically let it do its thing and it is saying that the latest driver is November?

I must be lucky because I just never seem to get any issues, it just works. I know the majority of this is 6600 but still thought I would check it...

LtMatt · 18 Jan 2023 at 16:46

Vince said:
did they pull the driver? Just checked on mine because I basically let it do its thing and it is saying that the latest driver is November?

I must be lucky because I just never seem to get any issues, it just works. I know the majority of this is 6600 but still thought I would check it...

No, just that some Vulkan extensions were added to the old package.

Vince · 18 Jan 2023 at 16:55

LtMatt said:
No, just that some Vulkan extensions were added to the old package.

ahh well im probably running it or something similar, whatever really I downloaded and updated them a few days ago... no major failure here yet. Just gotta trust that the Nitro+ is over engineered enough to deal with it :cry:

humbug · 18 Jan 2023 at 18:07

Purgatory said:

So is it just this one repair guy in Germany? Because if it is i would question his handling of the cards, if 70% of the cards sent for repair have cracked dies then we would be hearing a lot more about it than from just this one guy.

Of course the entire tech press jumping on it is just because there is a story to sell, it amplifies what is one guy in one shop possibly breaking the cards as he disassembled them and blaming it on manufacturing.

Anyone with an AM4 socket knows you do not just pull the cooler up, suction from thermal paste can be a powerful thing and pull the CPU right out of the locked socket, you twist and slide to break the seal.

SkeeterUK · 18 Jan 2023 at 18:36

Wasnt there a cracked gpu news item a few years ago, dunno which cards were affected but this story seems very familiar about drivers and cracked dies.

sparkymark75 · 18 Jan 2023 at 19:47

humbug said:
So is it just this one repair guy in Germany? Because if it is i would question his handling of the cards, if 70% of the cards sent for repair have cracked dies then we would be hearing a lot more about it than from just this one guy.

Of course the entire tech press jumping on it is just because there is a story to sell, it amplifies what is one guy in one shop possibly breaking the cards as he disassembled them and blaming it on manufacturing.

Anyone with an AM4 socket knows you do not just pull the cooler up, suction from thermal paste can be a powerful thing and pull the CPU right out of the locked socket, you twist and slide to break the seal.

And if the cards are under warranty, why are they even being sent to a repair shop rather than the retailer or manufacturer.

humbug · 18 Jan 2023 at 21:05

sparkymark75 said:
And if the cards are under warranty, why are they even being sent to a repair shop rather than the retailer or manufacturer.

Good point...

Gerard · 18 Jan 2023 at 23:21

Freddie1980 said:
Jay obviously doesn't read OCUK fourms because if he did he would have had the full story Clearly this place is to high brow for someone like him!

It was debunked basically a day or 2 after the story appeared. Yet Jay, with his finger on the pulse on the tech community waits a week to put out some drivel about it.

Marine-RX179 · 19 Jan 2023 at 11:27

Gerard said:
It was debunked basically a day or 2 after the story appeared. Yet Jay, with his finger on the pulse on the tech community waits a week to put out some drivel about it.

He's just learning from Nvidia...profiteering from Nvidia users :cry:

Everyone knows any video involve AMD potentially making an oopsie would get hundred thousands of views ez, with Nvidia users in particular happily watching them while eating popcorns

muon · 19 Jan 2023 at 12:14

Where is this supposed debunking. It's not on twitter or reddit. Only people here claiming the chips have been reflowed, but are just statements.

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

One moron on reddit tries to claim they are all from one miner and gets immediately debunked.

Gerard · 19 Jan 2023 at 14:21

muon said:
Where is this supposed debunking. It's not on twitter or reddit. Only people here claiming the chips have been reflowed, but are just statements.

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

One moron on reddit tries to claim they are all from one miner and gets immediately debunked.

It's not hard to read between the lines, all these cards in a single country all going to the same store for repair instead of warranty replacement? If they've not been messed with then why are they going to a repair shop?

And if this is a driver issue, how is it only this select number of cards in Germany affected? Does nobody outside Germany have a 6000 series and they also conveniently aren't running the same driver that allegedly caused these issues? It's utter ********, a driver issue would affect thousands of card and reports would be flying in from all over the place, but they're not, how strange.

Tinek · 19 Jan 2023 at 14:33

One more thing - repair dude claim the only thing connecting these GPUs was new driver. I would say the only real thing connecting these GPUs is the person/company opening them and repairing. Which raises many different questions about it.

muon · 19 Jan 2023 at 14:45

Gerard said:
It's not hard to read between the lines, all these cards in a single country all going to the same store for repair instead of warranty replacement? If they've not been messed with then why are they going to a repair shop?

And if this is a driver issue, how is it only this select number of cards in Germany affected? Does nobody outside Germany have a 6000 series and they also conveniently aren't running the same driver that allegedly caused these issues? It's utter ********, a driver issue would affect thousands of card and reports would be flying in from all over the place, but they're not, how strange.

Read between the lines? So no evidence of heatgun damage and/or reflowed chips which people have been stating as facts here?

Vince · 19 Jan 2023 at 14:51

muon said:
Read between the lines? So no evidence of heatgun damage and/or reflowed chips which people have been stating as facts here?

Can tell you from experience that you wouldn't be able to spot this 99% of the time if its done well. For example I replaced both RAM IC's on a forums members switch there is no way you would be able to tell they had been changed unless you knew they had been changed. Especially as the board went through the ultrasonic after.

sparkymark75 · 19 Jan 2023 at 14:59

muon said:
Read between the lines? So no evidence of heatgun damage and/or reflowed chips which people have been stating as facts here?

No evidence of drivers being the cause either. Unless AMD release a statement, everything else is speculation.

Gerard · 19 Jan 2023 at 15:05

muon said:
Read between the lines? So no evidence of heatgun damage and/or reflowed chips which people have been stating as facts here?

So if the cards haven't been messed with why are they all going to a repair center instead of warranty replacement? It's really incredible all these cards with cracked cores also just happen to be out of warranty. And even more incredible this all seems to be occurring in Germany and nowhere else on the planet, who knew the 6000 series only had buyers in Germany, certainly news to me.

It's bs, the cards have obviously been ****** with, end of discussion.

SkeeterUK · 19 Jan 2023 at 15:22

probs send to the repair guy cos they messed up changing cooler or doing somit and broke it.

welshrat · 19 Jan 2023 at 16:17

Does seem a bit suspect as I would have thought most of these cards would be in warranty especially in Germany where they have better buyer protection. Could be wrong of course and they bought them in Nov 2020 and they expired in December/Jan with a 2 year warranty but would be most unlucky.

eddyr · 19 Jan 2023 at 18:05

SkeeterUK said:
probs send to the repair guy cos they messed up changing cooler or doing somit and broke it.

So that would make 62nd time the charm?
:cry:

Drumroll · 19 Jan 2023 at 19:17

Someone flooded the local market with trashed GPUs, assembled them badly, some shows up damaged. As most people will simply update drivers when notified of a new version, not surprised.
I’m confident would be a real problem and not a local issue if it was happening everywhere else. Isn’t.
Particularly, I sold many well looked after GPUs, never had issues, but I’m reluctant in buying second hand. Every time I had to reinstall stock cooler good thermal paste was used, and new good quality and correct thickness thermal pad used. But I don’t believe most people care as much.
About Jay, I’m very suspicious of YouTubers who only praise products. Specially products that are clearly criticised everywhere else. His love for Corsair and Nvidia, too much for me to tolerate.
Rather spend my time watching grumpy Leo from KitGuru who doesn’t sugarcoat things he doesn’t like.
Lately I stopped watching quite a bunch of YouTubers who only have good things to say about every product. Was more like an early morning Polishop on TV than a honest review.
Take Mr Matt Lee, for example. No drama, good relaxing videos. Not reviews, clearly sponsored by the manufactures that feature in his videos, but it is as you see: not a review, not partial. Only a highlight showing the hardware under the best light.