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You want to pay attention to minimums not the average.
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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail - Go Go Go xD
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Caporegime
In my experience it's simply faster all around, I have upgraded from a 3700x though, Windows is more responsive and even at 4k games run faster and are more responsive. Been an excellent upgrade for me. Just crying over the 4090 now.
I even found web browsing snappier. Some things are hard to measure.
He's just trying to justify the bad purchase to himselfI've seen hudnreds of these charts and 10s of these reviews..
like I said when playing 4K /1440p the difference is MINIMAL.
in the chart you posted : £170 Ryzen 5 5600X = 90. £400 Ryzen 7 5800X3D = 93
3 extra FPS for £230 that's £77 per frameand you call this "awesome" sure
it's completely pointless at 1440p / 4k
at least the 5900X / 5950X / i9 have all those extra cores and performance and can really make meaningful difference to other application.
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Don’t be like this enthusiast. Make sure you have top qualifications before playing with Liquid Metal mind.
*EPIC THREAD* Major Problems with Coollaboratory Liquid Pro Thermal Compound DEAD CPU
hey guys, jsut had a lot of problems with this paste stuff, im wondering if any of you guys have had trouble with it? i wouldnt even class it as a paste becuase it has the qualitys of mecury :S input and opinions welcome
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Depends what game you play, I play a lot of SC2 which uses a single core and the average fps uplift from my 5900x was 34% in 4v4, regardless of what resolution used. I believe wow players saw large gainsI've seen hudnreds of these charts and 10s of these reviews..
like I said when playing 4K /1440p the difference is MINIMAL.
in the chart you posted : £170 Ryzen 5 5600X = 90. £400 Ryzen 7 5800X3D = 93
3 extra FPS for £230 that's £77 per frame
it's completely pointless at 1440p / 4k
at least the 5900X / 5950X / i9 have all those extra cores and performance and can really make meaningful difference to other application.
Caporegime
It's not for the novice user, but if you are comfortable and careful using it the gains can be significant. You are welcome.Don’t be like this enthusiast. Make sure you have top qualifications before playing with Liquid Metal mind.
*EPIC THREAD* Major Problems with Coollaboratory Liquid Pro Thermal Compound DEAD CPU
hey guys, jsut had a lot of problems with this paste stuff, im wondering if any of you guys have had trouble with it? i wouldnt even class it as a paste becuase it has the qualitys of mecury :S input and opinions welcome
P.S Gary, if you are planning to use it on Ryzen 7000 series, here's a primer for you.
It was actually one of the best purchases as the 5950X was holding back performance at 4K in a few titles I play like Warzone. So, it was very much a nice upgrade, plus it runs at like 50W which was half the power draw than my 5950X. This upgrade gave me significantly better 0.1%/1% lows (very important for a smooth gaming experience in Fast paced shooters) and a nice boost to average FPS due to the 5950X not being fast enough to keep a 6950XT running at 2.75Ghz completely unconstrained at 4K120HZ.
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I've done the same upgrade this week and as mentioned in an earlier thread I'm pleased with the upgrade (as is my son who got the 3700x).
Im not saying its a huge jump in performance, but is noticeable in the games I play and should stand me in good stead for the next couple of years at least. I got mine for a decent price and it was a lot cheaper than doing a full platform upgrade.
60-100 fps is a massive range, but if you don't care drops to the 60s, then buy a 5600x it will be enough for that. At least with today's games.
I was thinking about 5600x + B550 (I’m building new sold same PC last year) and upgrading to 5800X3D at some point when it drops to around £280-£300 (this chip is overpriced at £400).
But prices of B550 boards gone up (probably because they’re moving to new platforms / less production)making them really poor choices for an old end , of the line platform.(they cost the same as equivalent newer intel B660)
Now thinking about B660 intel + 12600K instead.
and there’s the i7 12790K which will be a better ,more versatile chip than 5800X3D (same price).
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I am reading whispers that in addition to the new AM5 3D cache CPU that AMD will launch some new AM4 Zen3 3D cache parts at CES2023 to prolong the life of AM4 and maximise sales. AM5 is selling below expectations/hopes resulting in lowered production, so it creates a real possibility that AMD would seek to leverage the existing popularity of AM4 and give people a couple more options. https://www.techgoing.com/amd-will-...ion-plan-due-to-poor-sales-ryzen-7000-series/
Good idea, a sale is a sale. It's not like that many people actually need the extra power of the new kit. If I was the manufacturers I'd stretch the life cycles out a bit whilst the economic climate is so poor.
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Imagine a 5950X3D, in fact actually might perform similar to a 5800X3D in games
Soldato
If you're exclusivlely playing at UHD ("4K"), then yeah, you're going to be more GPU bottlenecked, which is why there's usually very little performance difference between CPUs.
However, below UHD ("4K") there are larger gains to be had in a few games.
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However, below UHD ("4K") there are larger gains to be had in a few games.
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D review
It's time for another ZEN3 review, this time something extra special for gamers. It's the much-discussed Ryzen 7 5800X3D. The CPU, which is on many people's radar, features eight cores and sixteen ... Performance - Gaming RTX 3090 - 2560x1440 (QHD)
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One can only hope any new 3D parts would include improvements that remove some of the limitations that the 5800x3D had.
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Sorry for the rather tedious question that's about to follow, but is it worth upgrading from a Ryzen 5800 (non x) to 5800X3D? I game at 1440p Ultrawide, GPU is 3080 12gb and I also do VR - currently on oculus quest 2 with pc link but will be getting a Reverb G2 revision 2 at some point in the not too distant future.
Much obliged for your help.
Much obliged for your help.
Soldato
I would have to ask is your 5800 not doing the job? If not then maybe, personally I do not think it is worth the 400 quid ask for people who are already on Zen3. Matt upgrades his CPUs monthly and his GPUs weekly so gotta allow him some slack 
YOou would see a boost at 1440p, yes. Go check out the gazillion benchmarks in reviews that are at your fingertips with a quick google or search of Youtube.
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But then you can sell the 5800x. I'd say its worth it if you're on a 4090I would have to ask is your 5800 not doing the job? If not then maybe, personally I do not think it is worth the 400 quid ask for people who are already on Zen3. Matt upgrades his CPUs monthly and his GPUs weekly so gotta allow him some slack
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It's always a balance with CPU/GPU power. Some see getting a top performing CPU as future proofing for a number of GPU upgrades, which is sensible. However, there's an argument for updating mid-range CPUs more often to better match GPU power and remain up to date on other features (PCI-E, memory specs etc.).If you're exclusivlely playing at UHD ("4K"), then yeah, you're going to be more GPU bottlenecked, which is why there's usually very little performance difference between CPUs.
However, below UHD ("4K") there are larger gains to be had in a few games.
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D review
It's time for another ZEN3 review, this time something extra special for gamers. It's the much-discussed Ryzen 7 5800X3D. The CPU, which is on many people's radar, features eight cores and sixteen ... Performance - Gaming RTX 3090 - 2560x1440 (QHD)