AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail - Go Go Go xD

[Murphy]

What's the difference between resetting to optimized defaults then adjusting the settings to what I have now or just keep the settings I have now?

I've not experienced it myself but I've read new BIOS can sometimes remove a setting but keep whatever you set it at, effectively hiding a non-default setting so you can no longer change it.

Like i said though I've not experienced it so it could be FUD.

 

[Guest2]

5800X3D arrived earlier (on time)
BR 2229 PGS

Installed it (5 dot AMD method on the paste) and booted up, BIOS setting automatically reset.

I loaded XMP, set a couple of options off like onboard audio and fired into Windows.

All working so reset and went back into BIOS and set 1900IF, 3800Mhz C14 settings which I had in pictures on my phone.

Initially all was looking good, DRAM calc passed, R23 passed, AIDA cache & memory benchmark all good.

Fired up port royal and it crashed with black screen about 1/3 way. WHEA errors in logs.
R23 and DRAM bench all good again, tried the Matrix 'CitySample_51_DLSS_Cinematic' FPS started out fine, around 60 then I heard audio crackling which got more and more as FPS was dropping rapidly, then black screen and needed to hard reset like in Port Royal.

I expect (95% sure) this is infinity fabric on the chip not liking the 1900Mhz, maybe PCIE.
I read that coupled with Gsync (which is what I use) the IF really gets hammered. I could probably test all day long with CPU & RAM stress testing but GPU testing combined hits it hard.

Currently on XMP (3600Mhz CL16 RAM, 1800FCLK) and no issues. I'll stay like this for a bit before changing anything CPU wise.

If setting 1900 / 2000 FLCK, I highly recommend running GPU tests to confirm all is working - Port royal, timespy and PCI E feature test in 3d mark

 

[michty_me]

5800X3D arrived earlier (on time)
BR 2229 PGS

Installed it (5 dot AMD method on the paste) and booted up, BIOS setting automatically reset.

I loaded XMP, set a couple of options off like onboard audio and fired into Windows.

All working so reset and went back into BIOS and set 1900IF, 3800Mhz C14 settings which I had in pictures on my phone.

Initially all was looking good, DRAM calc passed, R23 passed, AIDA cache & memory benchmark all good.

Fired up port royal and it crashed with black screen about 1/3 way. WHEA errors in logs.
R23 and DRAM bench all good again, tried the Matrix 'CitySample_51_DLSS_Cinematic' FPS started out fine, around 60 then I heard audio crackling which got more and more as FPS was dropping rapidly, then black screen and needed to hard reset like in Port Royal.

I expect (95% sure) this is infinity fabric on the chip not liking the 1900Mhz, maybe PCIE.
I read that coupled with Gsync (which is what I use) the IF really gets hammered. I could probably test all day long with CPU & RAM stress testing but GPU testing combined hits it hard.

Currently on XMP (3600Mhz CL16 RAM, 1800FCLK) and no issues. I'll stay like this for a bit before changing anything CPU wise.

If setting 1900 / 2000 FLCK, I highly recommend running GPU tests to confirm all is working - Port royal, timespy and PCI E feature test in 3d mark

Awaiting your thoughts compared to the 5800X, hope it gives you what you were after.

 

[Guest2]

Awaiting your thoughts compared to the 5800X, hope it gives you what you were after.

Still more testing to do, but at least in Warzone 2 it seems to 'feel' smoother.
The framerate is the same (locked at 97) but feels smoother somehow. Hard to explain. Maybe its just new toy envy though?!

Benching wise its nots much different but have only ran through some basics so far like Heaven 4, Port royal and Shadow of the tomb raider to confirm things are stable.

Just had a my first ever Warzone 2 win on solos though with 9 kills. Servers seem much better tonight and the game ran perfect

 

[michty_me]

Still more testing to do, but at least in Warzone 2 it seems to 'feel' smoother.
The framerate is the same (locked at 97) but feels smoother somehow. Hard to explain. Maybe its just new toy envy though?!

Benching wise its nots much different but have only ran through some basics so far like Heaven 4, Port royal and Shadow of the tomb raider to confirm things are stable.

Just had a my first ever Warzone 2 win on solos though with 9 kills. Servers seem much better tonight and the game ran perfect

Sounds good. I would guess maybe feels smoother due to lesser dips in FPS but if you are locked at 97fps, Who knows.
I'll keep an eye out for your future posts in the thread to see how you are getting on with it and if its a worthy upgrade.

 

[Guest2]

New Genesis Phantasy star online 2 has a built in benchmark, 38776 in that which I think is on par with others 5800X3D. Game looks guff but the benchmark is free at least

 

[doodah]

Hhhhmm I'm still hitting low 90s even with load optimized defaults in the BIOS and using a PBO curve, any ideas what else it could be? Perhaps reseating my HSF, but it seems to be behaving in other situations (gaming, idles etc).

 

[Guest2]

Hhhhmm I'm still hitting low 90s even with load optimized defaults in the BIOS and using a PBO curve, any ideas what else it could be? Perhaps reseating my HSF, but it seems to be behaving in other situations (gaming, idles etc).

Low 90s in what app / game?

Update on my 5800X3D

Decided to try 1900IF / 3800Mhz RAM but with default C16.
Fired up the Matrix demo (CitySample_51_DLSS_Cinematic.zip) which is available here. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eQ_Oav8pxMJ-55qwwyRurjS_dyKgFGqZ/view

Watching system logs and look for event 19, inteconnect errors...



Certainly not stable at 1900 IF/FCLK. These X3D chips must be more sensitive to increased infinity fabric clock. I guess the IF (and RAM) matters less though with the increase in cache

I already know the RAM is good for 3800Mhz C14 with GDM enabled at 1.49V in BIOS, so set 3600Mhz/1800IF and flat 14 with GDM off.

So far so good



I also noticed there's a new 'Kombo Strike' feature in the BIOS under ADM overclocking with options for 1, 2 and 3. It doesnt says what it does but imagine its similar to PBO2 tuner, just with a fancy marketing name. Might try that after running a few more RAM tests

 

[Dwaindibbly]

Still more testing to do, but at least in Warzone 2 it seems to 'feel' smoother.
The framerate is the same (locked at 97) but feels smoother somehow. Hard to explain. Maybe its just new toy envy though?!

Benching wise its nots much different but have only ran through some basics so far like Heaven 4, Port royal and Shadow of the tomb raider to confirm things are stable.

Just had a my first ever Warzone 2 win on solos though with 9 kills. Servers seem much better tonight and the game ran perfect

I've just done the same swap from 5800x to 3d. Warzone 2 definitely feels a lot smoother.

What effective clocks are you getting in the game? Mine seem to average out at about 2500 which I thought seems quite low.
Temps are good, they never get above 55c so I dont think it's throttling.

It runs and looks great though. Got it locked at 119fps with the occasional drop to 100 at 4k recommended settings so I'm not overly fused, I just thought it strange to boost so low.

 

[Woodsta888]

I've just done the same swap from 5800x to 3d. Warzone 2 definitely feels a lot smoother.

What effective clocks are you getting in the game? Mine seem to average out at about 2500 which I thought seems quite low.
Temps are good, they never get above 55c so I dont think it's throttling.

It runs and looks great though. Got it locked at 119fps with the occasional drop to 100 at 4k recommended settings so I'm not overly fused, I just thought it strange to boost so low.

If you've got it locked to 119fps then it probabaly doesnt need to boost to max. In afterburner doubt your GPU is over 90% usage either? Remove frame lock and it'll probably go to max boost.

 

[Guest2]

I've just done the same swap from 5800x to 3d. Warzone 2 definitely feels a lot smoother.

What effective clocks are you getting in the game? Mine seem to average out at about 2500 which I thought seems quite low.
Temps are good, they never get above 55c so I dont think it's throttling.

It runs and looks great though. Got it locked at 119fps with the occasional drop to 100 at 4k recommended settings so I'm not overly fused, I just thought it strange to boost so low.

Clocks on CPU? Not sure, GPU (3090 Ti) sits happily at around 58c. As @Woodsta888 said though, if its locked at 119fps then it wont need to boost to max, similar to mine.

My Flat 14 RAM settings with GDM off wasnt happy and had an error in TestMem5 v0.12 using extreme anta config. It ust be my sub timings so just reset it to XMP.

I checked out what Kombo strike was and found this - https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/vr8ljh/i_tested_the_new_kombo_strike_feature_of_the/

Tried the same myself and wow, a 600+ point increase in R23 and more to the point an 11c reduction in temps and huge voltage/power reduction. All core boost went from ~4275Mhz to ~4450

Sorry for phone pics

Default (44482 was with 1900FCLK, which is 100% unstable)


Kombo strike 3


Im going to leave XMP enabled with kombo strike 3 setting for a bit. Not much point in messing with PBO tuner in Windows if the bios setting works

 

[BS Dave]

Low 90s in what app / game?

Update on my 5800X3D

Decided to try 1900IF / 3800Mhz RAM but with default C16.
Fired up the Matrix demo (CitySample_51_DLSS_Cinematic.zip) which is available here. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eQ_Oav8pxMJ-55qwwyRurjS_dyKgFGqZ/view

Watching system logs and look for event 19, inteconnect errors...



Certainly not stable at 1900 IF/FCLK. These X3D chips must be more sensitive to increased infinity fabric clock. I guess the IF (and RAM) matters less though with the increase in cache

I already know the RAM is good for 3800Mhz C14 with GDM enabled at 1.49V in BIOS, so set 3600Mhz/1800IF and flat 14 with GDM off.

So far so good



I also noticed there's a new 'Kombo Strike' feature in the BIOS under ADM overclocking with options for 1, 2 and 3. It doesnt says what it does but imagine its similar to PBO2 tuner, just with a fancy marketing name. Might try that after running a few more RAM tests

You could also try 3733/1866... 1900 is a weird wall

 

[michty_me]

Clocks on CPU? Not sure, GPU (3090 Ti) sits happily at around 58c. As @Woodsta888 said though, if its locked at 119fps then it wont need to boost to max, similar to mine.

My Flat 14 RAM settings with GDM off wasnt happy and had an error in TestMem5 v0.12 using extreme anta config. It ust be my sub timings so just reset it to XMP.

I checked out what Kombo strike was and found this - https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/vr8ljh/i_tested_the_new_kombo_strike_feature_of_the/

Tried the same myself and wow, a 600+ point increase in R23 and more to the point an 11c reduction in temps and huge voltage/power reduction. All core boost went from ~4275Mhz to ~4450

Sorry for phone pics

Default (44482 was with 1900FCLK, which is 100% unstable)


Kombo strike 3


Im going to leave XMP enabled with kombo strike 3 setting for a bit. Not much point in messing with PBO tuner in Windows if the bios setting works

I was just reading up on that after you mentioned it in a post above. Seems to be doing similar to PBO tuner but through the BIOS.

 

[Guest2]

You could also try 3733/1866... 1900 is a weird wall

1900 / 3800 worked perfect with my 5800X for 2 years. I guess 3733 / 1866 could be possible but would need to tweak DRAM voltages and timings for minimal gain.

An 11c reduction in CPU temps and ~200Mhz all core boost is nice though.

 

[Dwaindibbly]

If you've got it locked to 119fps then it probabaly doesnt need to boost to max. In afterburner doubt your GPU is over 90% usage either? Remove frame lock and it'll probably go to max boost.

I think it sits around 99% but not sure.

I locked it as I was getting tearing when frames went above the rate of my monitor.

I'll try to remove just to see.

Cheers for the reply

 

[Dwaindibbly]

Clocks on CPU? Not sure, GPU (3090 Ti) sits happily at around 58c. As @Woodsta888 said though, if its locked at 119fps then it wont need to boost to max, similar to mine.

My Flat 14 RAM settings with GDM off wasnt happy and had an error in TestMem5 v0.12 using extreme anta config. It ust be my sub timings so just reset it to XMP.

I checked out what Kombo strike was and found this - https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/vr8ljh/i_tested_the_new_kombo_strike_feature_of_the/

Tried the same myself and wow, a 600+ point increase in R23 and more to the point an 11c reduction in temps and huge voltage/power reduction. All core boost went from ~4275Mhz to ~4450

Sorry for phone pics

Default (44482 was with 1900FCLK, which is 100% unstable)


Kombo strike 3


Im going to leave XMP enabled with kombo strike 3 setting for a bit. Not much point in messing with PBO tuner in Windows if the bios setting works

That kombo sounds interesting. I'll give it a whirl myself. Cheers

 

[Guest2]

Timespy. 340 mark difference, 11c difference

Default (yesterday)
CPU 11,951, average clock speed 4,313 MHz. 81c

Result not found

www.3dmark.com

Kombo strike 3 (today)
CPU 12, 291, average clock speed 4,442 MHz. 70c

In comparison my 5800X scored 12, 631, average clock speed 4,535 MHz. 73c
Ironically also a 340 mark difference!?

 

[Murphy]

I was just reading up on that after you mentioned it in a post above. Seems to be doing similar to PBO tuner but through the BIOS.

Going on this GN video it circumvents some of AMD's built-in protections.

 

[Woodsta888]

I think it sits around 99% but not sure.

I locked it as I was getting tearing when frames went above the rate of my monitor.

I'll try to remove just to see.

Cheers for the reply

I lock mine also to 119, that's what you are meant to do to mitigate the tearing VRR causes once you exceed the VRR range.

Smoothness yourself and @Guest2 are experiencing is due to the excellent 1% lows the X3D produces. Thus the framerates aren't having such a large range of FPS/VRR as before. 1% lows is all about game smoothness and is the most important benefit over the increase in average fps. Higher 1% lows = smoother gaming. It's why the X3D is the ultimate AM4 CPU for gaming. Looking forward to see what the AM5 X3D CPU's do against intel's offerings.

 

[Nexus18]

Looks like the kombo option is similar to undervolting?