Ok, maybe that’s a little harsh. But lots of these YouTube chaps are hardly authorities when it come to the nuts and bolts of microelectronics.
Last edited:
-
Competitor rules
Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPU Burns Up
- Thread starter Jamin280672
- Start date
Ok, maybe that’s a little harsh. But lots of these YouTube chaps are hardly authorities when it come to the nuts and bolts of microelectronics.
Associate
GamersNexus have been pretty consistent in the past and normally are on the ball when it comes to these kinds of issues so I'd be inclined to trust their analysis
Last edited:
Agreed some are enthusiastic but clueless. I like GN as they don't pretend they know if they don't, and will get in experts or outsource to professionals. They really are trying to provide the transparency we need in the industry. They, the industry, like to rely on their business being complex and the customer having no clue if they are being BS'd or not.
Last edited:
what difference does any of that make ?
Well, one is a post on twitter. The other is a video from a salesman with a sponsorship, who may or may not have a vested interest in a particular brand.
Doesn't he work for a German datacentre?
Yup, one post is on twitter from a everyday joe, like every CPU that has died whether it be in an ASUS board, Gigabyte Board, MSI Board or ASRock board, so again, what difference does it make.
Why would you think ASUS are to blame if you cant believe all the other boards are to blame too, maybe non of the boards are to blame and its AMD's fault, they provide the AGESA updates after all to board partners.
I think hes something to do with Thermal Grizzly, unless thats just who he uses to bunk manufacture his products
Last edited:
Associate
Well at least these issue's are showing up now and have a chance to be fixed before Zen 5 comes. Hopefully it will lead to better QA with AM5 bioses and at the very least a good amount of memes... 
I thought the OCP accusation was only at Asus? I thought they said the OCP seemed to work on gigabyte hence why only the CPU died in that case.
The complaint at the other motherboards related to the shut off temperature being too high for the X3D chips.
I definitely think they all seemed to be flying too close to the sun with setting 1.35v and it's clear it can happen on any. However there's something to be said about Asus's shown value being so far off what it was supplying, and the fact it didn't trigger the OCP to shut itself off. It puts me off their boards a bit, not going to lie.
Last edited:
Associate
When it comes to ASUS it seems they just got caught being lazy
That is certainly true, YouTube is full of small time creators giving really poor advice. They're ill equiped to handle a story like this. GN stand apart from the crowd though, they've been great advocates for consumers of PC gaming hardware.
Pretty much but when they're meant to be seen as the "premium" brand that's not a great look, lol.
Just watched the video in full (painful) and the conclusion seems to be they don’t fully understand the issue and reached out to engineers, totally understandable, but of course will require follow up videos… although some of us come to the same point as Steve and his team days earlier (pages 9-12) with zero hardware fatalities, but that wouldn’t make for great YouTube content.
So what I learned from Steve and the team is, the Asus bios voltage section seems to also function as random number generator and can’t be set accurately without getting a multimeter out and probing the board, nice job Asus.
0.9v please, drumroll… yeah-nah 1.49v set.
Last edited:
Associate
Sad but true.
Not sure what his day job was. He used get pretty decent overclocks around the time I was calling it a day because it was all about sponsorship and marketing.
Just saw the video, glad i wasnt an early adopter of am5, its been a train wreck from the start.
Now light has been shed on this hopefully amd can get their act together and people haven't lost too much hope in them. A proper permanent fix is what people are still awaiting.
Those who havent had issues yet, im wondering if the life span of the cpus has been hit hard and will end up with issues 5-6 years down the line
AFAIK he owns Thermal Grizzly.I think hes something to do with Thermal Grizzly, unless thats just who he uses to bunk manufacture his products
Associate
- Joined
- 8 Oct 2008
- Posts
- 1,296
Hopefully the end result of all of this is that reviewers and possibly even motherboard manufacturers will concentrate on things that count, such as board quality, accurate voltages set in the bios etc, instead of the current "gamer" more RGB, more volts = more fps nonsense.
A shame there are no viable no nonsense boards available from any manufacturer, high spec, high quality components, with a nice green no bs pcb. Ohh and proper documentation would be nice. I haven't seen a manual for a bios that actually explains what each setting actually does for years. Nor any real change log for when a new bios is issued.
There is no excuse that a board provides different voltages to what is actually set in in the bios. Currently a lot of the boards supply way over spec voltages to multiple components to either enhance performance or compatibility/stability with ram etc. Even my Asus z690 Intel board with a 13900k using bios defaults massively overvolts the system causing extreme heat & power consumption making it unusable. (not to the extent here - however I have not tried) . The first thing I did was undervolt it. Whilst it's obvious a lot of us here do like a bit over overclocking etc. Having it at default raise things beyond spec to edge out over the competition is a issue here. The push for a couple of fps to try and and validate the cost of a £700+ motherboard is a problem.
A shame there are no viable no nonsense boards available from any manufacturer, high spec, high quality components, with a nice green no bs pcb. Ohh and proper documentation would be nice. I haven't seen a manual for a bios that actually explains what each setting actually does for years. Nor any real change log for when a new bios is issued.
There is no excuse that a board provides different voltages to what is actually set in in the bios. Currently a lot of the boards supply way over spec voltages to multiple components to either enhance performance or compatibility/stability with ram etc. Even my Asus z690 Intel board with a 13900k using bios defaults massively overvolts the system causing extreme heat & power consumption making it unusable. (not to the extent here - however I have not tried) . The first thing I did was undervolt it. Whilst it's obvious a lot of us here do like a bit over overclocking etc. Having it at default raise things beyond spec to edge out over the competition is a issue here. The push for a couple of fps to try and and validate the cost of a £700+ motherboard is a problem.