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It's best to set it as low as it will go and stay stable, this is one of the big problems I've had is there has obviously been no real testing by ANYONE. AMD and the motherboard vendors have been lazy it seems in validation and every YouTuber have gone for the OMG it burns clicks instead of actual real useful to the end user information.
 
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If ASUS staff have committed a criminal offence in the UK by lying to customers on behalf of the company they very definitely SHOULD be prosecuted. THAT is how companies and individuals learn not to commit crimes on behalf of their employer and its a very powerful deterrent to others ready or willing to do the same thing. Quietly brushing things under the carpet that are to the detriment of consumers is anti-consumer as is advocating it.
Ridiculously far fetched.

Huge companies move at a snails pace when it comes to communication.

All ASUS BETA bioses are tagged with that disclaimer, its coded in ( verified by GN )

ASUS is global - it would have taken an age for something trivial like a single webpage to have been flagged to head office in Taiwan and looked into.

Do you seriously think a person at ASUS thought 'hell yeh lets just add this disclaimer for the lols' ?

Too many people here overthinking.

The issues may have made ASUS improve communication - which is good, but deliberate to get bad press - No
 
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If ASUS staff have committed a criminal offence in the UK by lying to customers on behalf of the company they very definitely SHOULD be prosecuted. THAT is how companies and individuals learn not to commit crimes on behalf of their employer and its a very powerful deterrent to others ready or willing to do the same thing. Quietly brushing things under the carpet that are to the detriment of consumers is anti-consumer as is advocating it.

What do you really know about justice? Do you also blame the baseball bat after someone uses it in an unlawful way?
 
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It's best to set it as low as it will go and stay stable, this is one of the big problems I've had is there has obviously been no real testing by ANYONE. AMD and the motherboard vendors have been lazy it seems in validation and every YouTuber have gone for the OMG it burns clicks instead of actual real useful to the end user information.

Its not AMD's job to be Q&A for motherboard vendors, AMD's own AGESA BIOS menu sets the correct SoC voltages.

Motherboard vendors are responsible for thier own in house crap.
 
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It's AMD's platform, ultimately they are responsible for everything because it's their business on the line Asus still get to make intel motherboards if AMD disappear.

It should be someone's job to have tested what every memory kit needs when they are validated, not what might be probably safe.... fingers crossed. That job really shouldn't be the end user if you offer a one click bios setting.
 
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It's AMD's platform, ultimately they are responsible for everything because it's their business on the line Asus still get to make intel motherboards if AMD disappear.

It should be someone's job to have tested what every memory kit needs when they are validated, not what might be probably safe.... fingers crossed. That job really shouldn't be the end user if you offer a one click bios setting.

AMD's platform? AMD don't make a platform, they make a chip and the firmware to make it work, Motherboard vendors making their own firmware is the responsibility of that motherboard vendors Q&A, not AMD's, its not their product, AMD can't police a third parties software, its not theirs. all they can do is give guidance.

Just like its not AMD's responsibility to police Windows, that's on Microsoft.
 
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Who else is making a CPU to put in a 670 board ?

Just because they don't make all the parts doesn't mean it's not, would you rather a different terminology ? OK, come up with one.

Point is The buck stop at AMD to make sure things work because it's AMD that will suffer if it doesn't, It's a long time since CPU makers made chips For motherboards, motherboard makers make boards for CPU manufacturers. AMD are at the top of the chain.
 
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It's AMD's platform, ultimately they are responsible for everything because it's their business on the line Asus still get to make intel motherboards if AMD disappear.

It should be someone's job to have tested what every memory kit needs when they are validated, not what might be probably safe.... fingers crossed. That job really shouldn't be the end user if you offer a one click bios setting.

That’s not how business works. AMD would be better to enter motherboard business/buy Asus.
 
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That’s not how business works. AMD would be better to enter motherboard business/buy Asus.
No, that's exactly how business works, if you are effectively outsourcing a critical part of your business you need to have a responsibility if to no one else but yourself to control and oversee it.

If you know ASUS for example suck and will be detrimental to your brand image, then don't supply them with the AM5 chipset in the first place otherwise AM5 IS your platform you should be in control testing everything is working to your spec, not some random YouTubers.
 
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No, that's exactly how business works, if you are effectively outsourcing a critical part of your business you need to have a responsibility if to no one else but yourself to control and oversee it.

If you know ASUS for example suck and will be detrimental to your brand image, then don't supply them with the AM5 chipset in the first place otherwise AM5 IS your platform you should be in control testing everything is working to your spec, not some random YouTubers.

IC. Shouldn’t American Megatrends and Microsoft be testing memory compatibility then?

That’s not how business works BTW.
 
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IC. Shouldn’t American Megatrends and Microsoft be testing memory compatibility then?

That’s not how business BTW.
If for some reason memory was causing copies of windows to catch fire and negatively effect the Microsoft brand then sure I guess, but seeing as both are software it's a bit of a leap.

I don't get what's too hard to grasp that the problem is/was as with the AM5 platform and no matter how many other companies are involved, AMD sit at the top of the tree in control. It doesn't absolve anyone else from being rubbish too.
 
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