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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

DizzyZ said:
Yup, although I chocked and ordered a 9800x3d, I don't do any productivity work just pure gaming so was like why am I waiting for the 9950X3D?
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Also 9950X3D will be +30-40% more expencive and can have the same problems with the parking cores and big latency like a 7950X3D...
 
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--CARBON-- said:
Also 9950X3D will be +30-40% more expencive and can have the same problems with the parking cores and big latency like a 7950X3D...
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Exactly, there are ways to mitigate but they're a pain - e.g. bios option like on Asus and Gigabyte to disable the slower CCX or using project lasso etc. although according to rumors, that'll be fixed in the next gen CPUs so might be a good idea to skip higher end
 
Capitano said:
Im sure a 9900X3D could be fine too depending on what you do.
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Yes to a certain extent. But if it is for something which earns you money and time is money wasted then it not.
Absolutely Clueless said:
I do wonder how much the 9950X3D will cost, both its MSRP and actual price. I don't expect the same fiasco as the 9800X3D, but you never know
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I am guessing it will be roughly 700. How much did the 7950x3d release for?
 
Absolutely Clueless said:
I believe it was £750. Given the 9800X3D is going for £500+, I could see the same price tbh.
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It wouldn’t surprise me. Let’s say it is on par or fairly close to the 9800x3d in gaming and surpasses something like the intel 285/7950x3d it seems like it would enter at that price point if it had the productivity output to match/surpass.

Not that I find the 9800x3d lacking in any shape or form as I don’t do any productivity tasks but I would get just out of curiosity.
 
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I have custom water cooling and my 9800x3d gets to 80'c on load sometimes. Have I made a poor mount? Also using new thermal take Helios solid thermal interface material.
 
megatron said:
I have custom water cooling and my 9800x3d gets to 80'c on load sometimes. Have I made a poor mount? Also using new thermal take Helios solid thermal interface material.
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That's probably close to what is expected. Especially if you pushed the boost as well to 5.425Ghz (+200Mhz) or edited other settings for the CPU.

My own 9800x3D with the +200Mhz and -35 Curve Optimizer under a Noctua D15 G2, under a long load, inches itself towards 85C max temps for the CPU.
 
Mine is stock. I don't want to remount until I find a replacement screw which is hitching in the standoff, needed a vice to remove it last time.
 
megatron said:
I have custom water cooling and my 9800x3d gets to 80'c on load sometimes. Have I made a poor mount? Also using new thermal take Helios solid thermal interface material.
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In the begining I have the same issue with Artic Liquid Freezer III 360 + MX6 paste,stock i hit 80-83C in cinebench. After remount and MX4 i have 78-82C with [email protected] in cinebench,in games 52-58C. For me the best paste is Arctic MX-4, Im use it from years.
Does your cooler have an option for offset install on AMD processors? Because the hottest point is 5mm below the center of the processor.Try to remount the cooler and put normal paste, I think this will fix your temps.
 
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I can't mount my cooler offset, its an AM4 block with AM5 standoffs; fortunate that I can reuse it. I'm looking at some m4 hex bolts on screwfix, but not sure 16mm isn't too long. If I'd had to guess I'd say original screws were 12mm. Hard to say whilst typing this on the PC with block mounted.
 
megatron said:
I can't mount my cooler offset, its an AM4 block with AM5 standoffs; fortunate that I can reuse it. I'm looking at some m4 hex bolts on screwfix, but not sure 16mm isn't too long. If I'd had to guess I'd say original screws were 12mm. Hard to say whilst typing this on the PC with block mounted.
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If You want to have the best termal performance You will need to mode your cooler block mount or buy a new one which have a offset mount
You can see here what I mean about the hotes point of AMD cpu
Sroll down and check "Native AMD Offset Mounting" picture (sorry I do not know how to upload picture in the forum)
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But before do some mods or buy new one,try to put normal paste and if the temps looks better and you are happy with them use it with this way.
 
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How's everyone getting on with overclocking?

Don't seem to be able to go above 5425mhz all core. Running Thermaltake Phantom Spirit and PBO +200 CO-30 (mine is actually stable at -40 but can't see any difference in performance).

Temps are good 48 degrees idle, 57 average when gaming (spiking up to a max of 68) and hitting 90 when benchmarking, all using a low rpm silent fan curve with a Thermalright Phantom Spirit air cooler and some very old Artic MX-2 paste.

Set my IF to 2200 yesterday which improved all benchmark scores and games' fps by 5%, but it's crashing today on desktop/low usage. I suspect I need to change the SOC voltage but I don't really like messing around with voltages and my Asus voltage bios settings are confusing. The recommended is 1.15 volt at 2200, but the Asus stock auto settings are running at 1.264, so I dialled IF back to 2067 which is stable.
 
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