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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
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I wil never understand why people have blind, unconditional loyalty to a corporation or brand.
I find the whole UB debacle astounding.
I find the whole UB debacle astounding.
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I don’t buy into that, sounds like something Jensen would say.
In relation to Zen 5, there was nothing stopping AMD from using a new memory controller.
It is the retailers that raise the price most of the time so the manufacturerers do not see any extra cash from it.
There is probably a big difference between a consumer importing one product and distributors bringing in pallets worth 10's of thousands
At retail value OCUK has ordered £4.5M of 9800X3D’s.
To anyone with an ounce of rationality it is clear the price gouging of the 7000X3D series and now the 9800X3D is retailer driven. You need a special level of cope to blame AMD on that.
Also don’t bother explaining how importing works in retail, any posts that show how bad Brexit is are like a red rag to a bull to some posters. The irony is without Brexit there’d be no paperwork for the vast majority of goods.
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It all comes from the company as they control the inventory channel, we’ve seen example from both Jensen and Lisa telling investors how then hold back supply to increase or maintain prices.
Soldato
That is quiet literally insane
Whoever wrote that must have been laughing none stop.
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lol, tell us you don’t know how CPU launches work without telling us you don’t know how CPU launches work.
AMD ramp down production of older gen CPUs to improve production capacity in preparation for their NEW CPU series. This is perfectly normal and not some weird made up conspiracy. AMD have limited wafers and aren’t going to sabotage their own new gen CPU release. It should also be remembered that unlike their GPUs, AMD CPUs are incredibly good and have market share dominance for gamers. So remaining stock of EOL CPUs is going to be very limited.
Retailers are loving this scenario right now, it’s a perfect storm scenario to increase stock prices and absolutely nothing to do with AMD. AMD did what every hardware manufacturer ever does when they release a newer model. They reduce or even stop production of the older one.
1. 9000 series received lukewarm reviews.
2. People holding out for the 9000X3D assume they will also be a bit crap and jump on the now cheap stock of 7000x3D series.
3. But AMD reduced 7000X3D production (can you see where this is going yet?).
4. So stock gets low and retailers aren’t getting replacements and they raise prices due to demand. AKA price gouging.
5. The 9800X3D turns out to be fairly decent and AMD can’t keep up with demand.
6.Retailers see an opportunity and (still see were we are going?) you guessed it… start price gouging.
So now we have priced gouged older stock AND price gouged replacements due to demand. Expect 7000 series prices to start dropping soon.
You need to be a delusional conspiracy theorist to think this is all manufactured by AMD. Yeah they sometimes control stock to help sell off old inventory, but this is next level conspiracy theories. It’s like Schrödinger’s AMD, they both suck at marketing and are marketing geniuses at the same time according to the exact same people.
AMD ramp down production of older gen CPUs to improve production capacity in preparation for their NEW CPU series. This is perfectly normal and not some weird made up conspiracy. AMD have limited wafers and aren’t going to sabotage their own new gen CPU release. It should also be remembered that unlike their GPUs, AMD CPUs are incredibly good and have market share dominance for gamers. So remaining stock of EOL CPUs is going to be very limited.
Retailers are loving this scenario right now, it’s a perfect storm scenario to increase stock prices and absolutely nothing to do with AMD. AMD did what every hardware manufacturer ever does when they release a newer model. They reduce or even stop production of the older one.
1. 9000 series received lukewarm reviews.
2. People holding out for the 9000X3D assume they will also be a bit crap and jump on the now cheap stock of 7000x3D series.
3. But AMD reduced 7000X3D production (can you see where this is going yet?).
4. So stock gets low and retailers aren’t getting replacements and they raise prices due to demand. AKA price gouging.
5. The 9800X3D turns out to be fairly decent and AMD can’t keep up with demand.
6.Retailers see an opportunity and (still see were we are going?) you guessed it… start price gouging.
So now we have priced gouged older stock AND price gouged replacements due to demand. Expect 7000 series prices to start dropping soon.
You need to be a delusional conspiracy theorist to think this is all manufactured by AMD. Yeah they sometimes control stock to help sell off old inventory, but this is next level conspiracy theories. It’s like Schrödinger’s AMD, they both suck at marketing and are marketing geniuses at the same time according to the exact same people.
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Caporegime
That's just normal business practice. You don't want massive oversupply, especially coming up to a new product release.
9800x3d beats 285k by 40% in gaming
Userbemchmark: the 9800x3d has no real world performance
Exactly and where my reference to Schrödinger’s AMD comes from.
AMD delay release of 8800XT GPU because they have too much stock of the unpopular 7000 series GPUs. AMD are stupid and suck at planning!
AMD release the new replacement of the very popular but now EOL 7000 series CPU and demand of both results in price gouging by retailers. Oooh it’s a conspiracy all planned by the evil geniuses at AMD.
It’s the usual irrational suspects that haven’t the self awareness that they are constantly contradicting their own conspiracies.
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Caporegime
"They said it wasn't stable".
They lied to you.
1.71 VDD
1.58 VDDQ
1.45 VDDIO
Nitro 1 3 1
They lied to you.
1.58 VDDQ
1.45 VDDIO
Nitro 1 3 1
???
Around 20% in 720p, real world advantage will be lower than that. No need to spread FUD
I haven't
"They said it wasn't stable".
They lied to you.
1.71 VDD
1.58 VDDQ
1.45 VDDIO
Nitro 1 3 1
Very impressive! What latency are you getting on AIDA64?
What, about the manufacturing constraints?? It doesn’t matter if you ‘buy into it’ or not, it’s just fact lol.
Every time you reduce the NM, it gets more and more difficult to reduce it further and achieve more performance uplift. It’s very easy to go from 30nm to 28nm. Not so easy to go from 5nm to 4nm lol. Sandy Bridge was 32nm for example, and we’ve gone from that, to 4nm, in the space of 13 years. 4nm is absolutely tiny, and it gets very hard to keep going smaller and finding more improvement. And any improvement will be small compared to when transistor sizes were much larger.
Eventually, and it’s not actually that far off, we will reach the maximum achievable performance allowed by NM sizes and hit a brick wall. The only way to improve after that would be to create entirely new technologies.