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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

Mudmover said:
Hi all, new to the forum here, but have been building my own PCs since the KIM-1 back in the eighties - yes, I'm that old!

Ordered a 9800x3D at 14:50, so not sure when it'll arrive. I ordered it alongside a Gigabyte B650E AORUS ELITE ICE - which was in stock, but has also now moved to 'Pre-Order'. Anyone know whether that'll further delay the receipt of the 9800x3D, or whether the motherboard will have been reserved for me and waiting for the 9800x3D to become available?

It'd be a bit of a bummer if the 9800x3D became available and then the order gets held up waiting for the M'board!

TIA
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Probably best to get in touch with customer support and ask them what their policy is. As for the 9800X3D, you will be well down the pecking order if you placed your order at 14:50. The people who are in the first & second waves all ordered before 14:45, I understand.
 
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pwr22 said:
Has anyone seen any good benchmarks on ray / path tracing heavy gaming workloads? I like to play things with these dialled all the way up and I know that there's actually a fairly decent burden on the CPU with all the BVH accounting and such (until maybe that gets offloaded onto the GPU in some later generation). Wondering how much of a difference the 9800x3D might make in 0.1% / 1% lows there.
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Our very own @LtMatt has some testing for you:

You can see clearly that for high refresh rate gaming in this game (and many others) it's really all about the 9800X3D. My own testing with my R5 7600 has me closer to 60 in that area, which would be similar to your 5800X3D. Tho with a 4090 perhaps that could increase to 70ish. Either way, far from the 9800X3D!
 
Poneros said:
Our very own @LtMatt has some testing for you:

You can see clearly that for high refresh rate gaming in this game (and many others) it's really all about the 9800X3D. My own testing with my R5 7600 has me closer to 60 in that area, which would be similar to your 5800X3D. Tho with a 4090 perhaps that could increase to 70ish. Either way, far from the 9800X3D!
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I've bettered those results a bit (min/avg FPS) since I did that run, seems like HWINFO64 was impacting the 0.1% a little bit. Think it was high 80s when i last tested. Plus shadowplay does not help.

Here's some other tests I did too at 6600/2200Mhz.

Cyberpunk 1080P Low Preset benchmark


Dawntrail 720P Laptop Standard Preset benchmark.
 
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LtMatt said:
I've bettered those results a bit (min/avg FPS) since I did that run, seems like HWINFO64 was impacting the 0.1% a little bit. Think it was high 80s when i last tested. Plus shadowplay does not help.

Here's some other tests I did too at 6600/2200Mhz.

Cyberpunk 1080P Low Preset benchmark


Dawntrail 720P Laptop Standard Preset benchmark.
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Either way, 9800X3D far away in front. Mine below, 720p FSR UP w/ PT (7600 + 6800), very lightly modded (mostly QoL stuff tho); also tried with just RT and without RT, but same fps:

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Monkeyboysteve said:
Anyone else absolutely love the IHS on this? Obv it will be covered, but holy cow it just looks stunning imo compared to most older Ryzen and intel chips.

Just want to stroke it.
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It's a pain in the butt if you get thermal paste down the sides of it. I got a Thermalright contact frame for my 7800x3d so that I can't spill thermal paste over the edges.
 
pastymuncher said:
It's a pain in the butt if you get thermal paste down the sides of it. I got a Thermalright contact frame for my 7800x3d so that I can't spill thermal paste over the edges.
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I got one with my noctua thermal paste. :)

First time I ever built my own pc rather than buy a prebuilt, I had no idea how much thermal paste to put on, put way too much and it just went everywhere. All over the board and socket. I was crapping myself thinking it was conductive and I had just wasted a lot of money. Lol.

Somehow it even got in all the pins of the CPU when I took it out to clean everything up. It was a mess.
 
xaldub said:
Probably best to get in touch with customer support and ask them what their policy is. As for the 9800X3D, you will be well down the pecking order if you placed your order at 14:50. The people who are in the first & second waves all ordered before 14:45, I understand.
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Yeh, I've sent a contact form in to CS, but not expecting a reply anytime soon....

Depending on how one reads @Gibbo 's first post in the ETA thread, I may just squeak into the 2nd wave, or have to wait until December; as at 14:50 I'm outside his quote for the 2nd wave, but before his 15:00 cutoff for the third.

I know there may be one or two people cancelling their order if they've been able to source from elsewhere - so I'm hopeful I may just squeak into the 2nd wave and get it before the end of November, when I have some time free from work - so will be able to complete the build.... [fingers crossed]
 
I setup some monitoring using HWINFO and exporting to Grafana to show the performance of my PC. Running COD6 at 1440P DLSS/Balance native RES my RT 4080 is maxed out at 100% and CPU around 65%

So would a new 9800X3D increase FPS over the 5800X3D ? If you have a GPU maxed out that means the CPU isn't holding it back and I guess there isn't any point ?

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On that note, out of curiosity - does CPU Load mean average load across all cores, or maximum measured load on the most loaded core?

I was wondering that ever since i've looked at HWInfo when playing KSP, where i had a CPU load of like 45%, but was still CPU limited (because the physics were running off of a single maxed core, the rest just waiting on that). Not really in the know though, just worth double checking maybe.
 
beerglass007 said:
The dip is the game loading between multiplayer
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I'm talking about the smaller dips that sometimes go as low as 80%. In an ideal case the GPU load would be a solid line at 100%. That said it really depends on the game, and whether you want to change platforms is entirely up to you. I'm upgrading from a 5700x (with a 3080 12gb) as I'm seeing CPU bottlenecks in Cyberpunk and 4x games. If you're not happy with your performance then CPU/DDR5 upgrade is all you can do, as there isn't much further to go GPU-wise until 50 series/RDNA4 drops.
 
m4inbrain said:
On that note, out of curiosity - does CPU Load mean average load across all cores, or maximum measured load on the most loaded core?

I was wondering that ever since i've looked at HWInfo when playing KSP, where i had a CPU load of like 45%, but was still CPU limited (because the physics were running off of a single maxed core, the rest just waiting on that). Not really in the know though, just worth double checking maybe.
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I'm HWInfo I believe it's across all cores/threads (if you're using the motherboard sensor), so it can be misleading depending on the game. Some games are single-thread dependant so you can be CPU limited with around 50% usage, like you say.

The presentmon frametime and GPU/CPU wait times are more revealing when looking for bottlenecks in HWInfo, I find.
 
gilljoy said:
What motherboards has everyone got / went with.

I'm currently eyeing up either
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MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard

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or this as I'm getting a wifi 7 router when I move houses and this seems like a good board with wifi 7

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Gigabyte X870 EAGLE WIFI7 (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard

Order Gigabyte X870 EAGLE WIFI7 (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard now online and benefit from fast delivery.
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Or this one for the same reason but in white.
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Asrock X870 Pro RS WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard

Order Asrock X870 Pro RS WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard now online and benefit from fast delivery.
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What speed DDR5 are you planning on using as that may impact the choice of AMD Chipset?

Around 6000 M/Ts fine with X670 and R650 but above this, especially 7200 M/Ts and above then X870 may be best option.
 
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
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Gigabyte X870 EAGLE WIFI7 (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
MOT-GIG-03322
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Asrock X870 Pro RS WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
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