Poll: AMD Screws Gamers: Sponsorships Likely Block DLSS

[Ross Thomson]

What they don't mention is that's at 1080p:

Starfield: 32 GPU Benchmark, 1080p, 1440p, 4K / Ultra, High, Medium

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2 fps at 4k for how much difference in price?

 

[Ross Thomson]

Cpu bottlenecks even at 4k, game also runs about 20% better on Intel CPU than AMD CPU

really 20% got a comparison between the 7800X3D and the 13900k that shows 20%?

 

[Aegis]

2 fps at 4k for how much difference in price?

Does it matter? If you're buying a GPU specifically for Starfield, get an AMD (hey, you even get the game for free) - but Hardware Times stating the 7900XTX is faster without the proper context is at best disingenuous and at worst an outright lie.

I hate it when Nvidia shills do it and I hate it when AMD shills do it.

 

[humbug]

It's funny that when given the option, users will happily go out of their way to replace FSR with dlss. That tells you all you need to know about FSR

That Nvidia have 85% marketshare?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Does it matter? If you're buying a GPU specifically for Starfield, get an AMD (hey, you even get the game for free) - but Hardware Times stating the 7900XTX is faster without the proper context is at best disingenuous and at worst an outright lie.

I hate it when Nvidia shills do it and I hate it when AMD shills do it.

Here is the article:

AMD's RX 7900 XTX Beats the NVIDIA RTX 4090 in Starfield Despite Being $650 Cheaper

Bethesda’s next big RPG, Starfield, is out in early access for all those willing to shell out $100 for it. Despite not leveraging ray tracing, it’s a pretty-looking game with your usual Todd Howardesque quirks. Unlike previous titles from the Xbox Game Studio, this is an AMD partner title...

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We tested Starfield on the fastest NVIDIA and AMD graphics cards (with a Core i9-13900KF and 32GB of DDR5-6000 memory) and got interesting results. The game runs much better on Radeon cards (no surprise there), with similarly priced GeForce offerings being notably slower across all resolutions. Before we begin, remember that in a massive open-world game like Starfield, the performance will vary substantially from scene to scene.

 

[Aegis]

Here is the article:

HUB's testing appears to be much more thorough, however HUB used a 7800X3D whereas Hardware Times used a 13900KF.

So - on AMD (ironically), 4090 is faster, (@4k) on Intel (assuming HT's data is good) 7900XTX is faster.

And HT's headline: "AMD’s RX 7900 XTX Beats the NVIDIA RTX 4090 in Starfield Despite Being $650 Cheaper" is still only partially true.

 

[JediFragger]

As an XTX owner I'm just glad that it's close

 

[Gerard]

That Nvidia have 85% marketshare?

Exactly, but of course that has to be spun to mean something else. This forum i swear....

 

[Nexus18]

Well if anything it shows that any Nvidia rtx owner still doesn't value fsr enough to put up with it

 

[Harlequin]

HUB's testing appears to be much more thorough, however HUB used a 7800X3D whereas Hardware Times used a 13900KF.

So - on AMD (ironically), 4090 is faster, (@4k) on Intel (assuming HT's data is good) 7900XTX is faster.

And HT's headline: "AMD’s RX 7900 XTX Beats the NVIDIA RTX 4090 in Starfield Despite Being $650 Cheaper" is still only partially true.

GN did the trests on Intel without any upscaling or VSR

 

[tommybhoy]

What they don't mention is that's at 1080p:

Computerbase.de and overclock3D have the XTX on top@4K, there's always reasons though.

As an XTX owner I'm just glad that it's close

Behave.

 

[Aegis]

GN did the trests on Intel without any upscaling or VSR

Huh. Well spotted.

That just makes Hardware Times results look even less credible

 

[Gerard]

A 4090 is 2fps faster, that game engine be mega ******.

 

[Aegis]

A 4090 is 2fps faster, that game engine be mega ******.

There's speculation that Nvidia GPUs are being under-utilized in Starfield - also, Buildzoid noted that Starfield seems to scale according to memory bandwidth putting Ryzen at a distinct disadvantage vs. Intel.

 

[hyperseven]

seems the AMD/Bethesda legal team has had a word, poor John

 

[Gerard]

seems the AMD/Bethesda legal team has had a word, poor John

Yeah i'm sure thats what happened..

 

[Grim5]

That Nvidia have 85% marketshare?

The point is their GPU can use FSR but they replace it with the superior dlss

That has to boil Scott herkelman's milk, knowing they paid Bethesda to put FSR in and no one wants it lmao

 

[JediFragger]

Behave.

I am I swear!! As a pretty light gamer I couldn't justify the 4090 cost (think RT is pretty 'meh') and got a pretty sweet deal on a barely-used 2nd hand XTX so took it and switched. Very happy with it!

 

[JediFragger]

That has to boil Scott herkelman's milk, knowing they paid Bethesda to put FSR in and no one wants it lmao

Yup FSR is damn crap, AMD is the only one of the three now not to utilise a hardware-based upscaling solution and is therefore the worst. Other than that I'm v happy with the card!!

 

[Grim5]

really 20% got a comparison between the 7800X3D and the 13900k that shows 20%?

Depending if we're talking average, 1% low or 0.1% the 13900k is 20-30% ahead of the 7800x3d

Also, X3D and non X3D AMD CPUs run the same in this game, the 3D cache doesn't improve performance at all, the game is single thread heavy