AMD THREADRIPPER VS INTEL SKYLAKE X

Chuk_Chuk · 10 Jun 2017 at 17:05

Just wondering, but are going to have meme's about how intel CPUs run as hot as the sun and consume enough energy to light an entire street just like in the days of ~~faildozer~~ Bulldozer? Or are we going to pretend like it doesn't matter?

spoffle · 10 Jun 2017 at 17:07

Kelt said:
This tread is defiantly worserer than the GPU tread.

*moreer worsererer.

humbug · 10 Jun 2017 at 17:11

you're missing an er there ^^^^^

muon · 10 Jun 2017 at 17:13

Chuk_Chuk said:
Just wondering, but are going to have meme's about how intel CPUs run as hot as the sun and consume enough energy to light an entire street just like in the days of ~~faildozer~~ Bulldozer? Or are we going to pretend like it doesn't matter?

Well if you see the video above 89C max for 5ghz @ 1.320v using a 280mm AIO cooler under non-AVX load.

140W TDP at stock so would be interesting to see how much power it is consuming.

5ghz seems extreme to me rather than a 24/7 overclock.

He reckons 4.7/4.8 on a normal delidded chip which hasn't been binned.

humbug · 10 Jun 2017 at 18:04

muon said:
Well if you see the video above 89C max for 5ghz @ 1.320v using a 280mm AIO cooler under non-AVX load.

140W TDP at stock so would be interesting to see how much power it is consuming.

5ghz seems extreme to me rather than a 24/7 overclock.

He reckons 4.7/4.8 on a normal delidded chip which hasn't been binned.

lol... 4.8 on a chip that has been binned and 4.8 on one that has not, i do wonder what it originally said, before Intel's editors sent it back to him

muon · 10 Jun 2017 at 18:27

Delidding a $1000 chip probably isn't going to be that common either.

zornyan · 10 Jun 2017 at 18:34

humbug said:
lol... 4.8 on a chip that has been binned and 4.8 on one that has not, i do wonder what it originally said, before Intel's editors sent it back to him

probably about as editied as ryzen reviews after amd told them to change their benchmarks if say

faceman123 · 10 Jun 2017 at 18:41

when is the official release date for thread ripper?

faceman123 · 10 Jun 2017 at 18:49

good review

- Quote " On release day, the i7 was wiping the floor with Ryzen in gaming. Many optimizations later, the AM4 platform is coming onto its own. The gaming differences are negligible now. AMD did a great job this time around. "

Thekwango · 10 Jun 2017 at 18:53

muon said:
Delidding a $1000 chip probably isn't going to be that common either.

Common as muck, apparently. At least going by some of the nonsense being posted! Niche seemingly isn't niche anymore.

gavinh87 · 10 Jun 2017 at 19:04

Thekwango said:
Common as muck, apparently. At least going by some of the nonsense being posted! Niche seemingly isn't niche anymore.

It's only niche when its intel. Imagine the flack if this was the other way around.
*In before fanboy comments, I'm typing this on a Xeon

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zornyan · 10 Jun 2017 at 19:13

faceman123 said:
good review

- Quote " On release day, the i7 was wiping the floor with Ryzen in gaming. Many optimizations later, the AM4 platform is coming onto its own. The gaming differences are negligible now. AMD did a great job this time around. "

GTX 1080...put a ti in there and the i7 will pull ahead easily.

Chuk_Chuk · 10 Jun 2017 at 19:18

zornyan said:
GTX 1080...put a ti in there and the i7 will pull ahead easily.

Of course it does if you don't put a ti in the Ryzen system as well

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But seriously why would a ti make a difference?

Thekwango · 10 Jun 2017 at 19:22

gavinh87 said:
It's only niche when its intel. Imagine the flack if this was the other way around.
*In before fanboy comments, I'm typing this on a Xeon *

Aye, it's getting a bit idiotic now. Makes for good reading if only for the comic value. Love reading some of the valid points flying straight over the head of some of the posters. Or maybe they are just to dense to even realise there are valid points/arguments being made.

Jumper118 · 10 Jun 2017 at 19:23

this thread needs ripping. it's awful

lets all agree both platforms are slow and what we really want is a 100c200t chip that doesnt need a cooler at all and overclocks to 10ghz

Kelt · 10 Jun 2017 at 19:28

And costs £300.

zornyan · 10 Jun 2017 at 19:41

Chuk_Chuk said:
Of course it does if you don't put a ti in the Ryzen system as well.

But seriously why would a ti make a difference?

less gpu bottleneck.

on my 7700k system my titan Xp puts out about 200fps on average (needed for fast sync on high refresh rate monitor) on the old 1800x setup it only managed 160ish fps, meaning fast sync wouldn't work properly.

zornyan · 10 Jun 2017 at 19:49

found this interesting video from a while back.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...lid-delidding-i7-6950x-and-i7-5960x-by-8auer/

so....even the soldered chips got a near 10c temp reduction by using liquid metal after a delid, so essentially (since skylake x gets the same) their new tim process is actually ad efficient as their old solder process..

Chuk_Chuk · 10 Jun 2017 at 20:10

zornyan said:
less gpu bottleneck.

on my 7700k system my titan Xp puts out about 200fps on average (needed for fast sync on high refresh rate monitor) on the old 1800x setup it only managed 160ish fps, meaning fast sync wouldn't work properly.

That doesn't guarantee that the 7700k is going to "pull away" as you put it. Do you have any reviews showing that the gap increases when faster cards are used?

I would recommend that you stop gaming at 720p then

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zornyan said:
found this interesting video from a while back.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...lid-delidding-i7-6950x-and-i7-5960x-by-8auer/

so....even the soldered chips got a near 10c temp reduction by using liquid metal after a delid, so essentially (since skylake x gets the same) their new tim process is actually ad efficient as their old solder process..

5960X max temp dropped by 9 degrees (10% decrease). Avg temp dropped by 7.5 degrees (8.5% decrease)
6950x max temp dropped by 6 degrees (7.5% decrease). Avg temp dropped by 4 degrees (5.3% decrease)

zornyan · 10 Jun 2017 at 20:14

Chuk_Chuk said:
That doesn't guarantee that the 7700k is going to "pull away" as you put it. Do you have any reviews showing that the gap increases when faster cards are used?

I would recommend that you stop gaming at 720p then.

5960X max temp dropped by 9 degrees. Avg temp dropped by 7.5 degrees
6950x max temp dropped by 6 degrees. Avg temp dropped by 4 degrees

which shows that their current TIM process is basically as good as solder. which is something quite impressive no?