AMD to launch 300W GPU with High-Bandwidth-Memory

[IceShock]

who cares about power? iv got two 7950s with a TDP of 260W @ 1.3v cores, so a total of 520w.

(my tdp and voltage is set by me, ofc a standard 7950 isnt even close to that)

If a single card beats there performance by etleast 30% I will buy.

But if its only 10% on top of a 980, well that wont even beat what I have now. Unless ofc I play a game which has no dual GPU scaling.

I hope this card is a absolute beast, don't care if it comes with a 320 rad attached to it, as long as its a beast, ill get one, if its not that much faster, then ill be forced to wait another few months again

 

[andybird123]

I'm not so sure, when different AIB's produce their cards they don't no list different TDP's

But you might be right I'm not sure.

The gigabyte windforce cooler has a tdp of 600w
AIB's will just use the reference card as the stated tdp and then use marketing blurb to make it sound like you are getting something more, I'm not sure they would want to publish a tdp higher than the reference card the way things are going

 

[humbug]

Shots fired back...... lol

 

[Rroff]

Not having read into this is there anything beyond that he worked on development of such a technology and anything to suggest it was actually a success and/or something that would make its way beyond the lab?

 

[Disco_P]

I care about power draw.

High power use normally means lots of heat.

Lots of heat requires lots of cooling.

Lots of cooling usually means noise.

Noise makes me sad.

I don't want to spend money on something that makes me sad.

 

[trisp]

It does not matter what the difference is the 980 still uses less so the fact that the new ati card is gonna use more then its predecessor just makes the gap bigger.

Atleast it looks like cooling will not be a problem this time around... unless they make an even worse cooler then the 290's one....

 

[Squink]

It does not matter what the difference is the 980 still uses less so the fact that the new ati card is gonna use more then its predecessor just makes the gap bigger.

So you're saying you buy a high end graphics card based on how much juice it pulls from the wall? Even if the new AMD card is 30pc faster than the 980, you'll have the box for each in your hand, uhm and ahh for a bit before sticking down 500 notes on the 980 because it's a bit more efficient?

 

[Kaapstad]

Why are people arguing about a card that is total fiction thought up by some geek.

 

[Stanners]

So you're saying you buy a high end graphics card based on how much juice it pulls from the wall? Even if the new AMD card is 30pc faster than the 980, you'll have the box for each in your hand, uhm and ahh for a bit before sticking down 500 notes on the 980 because it's a bit more efficient?

Really....

What is the main problem with using more power, do you think it is.

a) Larger electricity bills

or

b) Where does all this energy go and what implications does this have on my system and the environment my system sits in.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Really....

What is the main problem with using more power, do you think it is.

a) Larger electricity bills

or

b) Where does all this energy go and what implications does this have on my system and the environment my system sits in.

Unless you have a SFF system where power consumption and TDP are more important,the first should not really be a concern since you are spending £100s on a graphics card AND if you can afford to do that you are working in a full time job(and have other social and family commitments) meaning you won't have the time to play 168 hours a week,meaning in reality you are not spending that much extra on power consumption.

The same goes for the second situation and you also forget during the winter months you can switch off your heating too. My mates in their computer rooms don't bother switching on their heating during the winter if they are spending extended periods in their computer rooms or offices.

Plenty of people were using GTX580 cards only a few years on this forum which were not that great when it came to power consumption,yet despite lower power alternatives I did not hear anyone complaining about them.

 

[Squink]

b) Where does all this energy go and what implications does this have on my system and the environment my system sits in.

I understand this point from a multi card setup where it'll become increasingly difficult to vent the heat, but most people will have one (possibly two) cards. Keeping it properly vented isn't going to be a problem unless your fanless micro case just HAS to be sat next to the radiator and just HAS to be absolutely silent under full load. If you need these things, get a slower card.

Look at the reference 290 - a loud, hot card. Then sapphire released the tri-x version and suddenly it's a quiet card with proper heat dispersion.

Power usage isn't on an infinite escalator so it's not like single core cards in 5 years will be using 800w.

 

[Twirlywoos]

Looks like nvidia users are constantly duped by specs and hyped up tdp claims, no wonder they constantly buy Ubisoft games

 

[Kaapstad]

Looks like nvidia users are constantly duped by specs and hyped up tdp claims, no wonder they constantly buy Ubisoft games

Yep I was a total sucker being taken in by the specs of the GTX 980

As you can see the performance is total crap.

3 x 980 @1472/2002
5960X @4.5
1080p
247.09 Drivers

Spoiler

Perhaps you can find 3 AMD GPUs that can really show up these awful 980s.

I am so disappointed by my 980s as it is cold today and they don't produce the same amount of heat the 290Xs can.

 

[Yaayuh!]

Don't care about TDP, so long as it's cooled sufficiently and has the performance to warrant the power.

 

[Stanners]

I understand this point from a multi card setup where it'll become increasingly difficult to vent the heat, but most people will have one (possibly two) cards. Keeping it properly vented isn't going to be a problem unless your fanless micro case just HAS to be sat next to the radiator and just HAS to be absolutely silent under full load. If you need these things, get a slower card.

Look at the reference 290 - a loud, hot card. Then sapphire released the tri-x version and suddenly it's a quiet card with proper heat dispersion.

Power usage isn't on an infinite escalator so it's not like single core cards in 5 years will be using 800w.

Then the heat is then dumped into the environment the system sits in, energy does not simply disappear. This is nice during the winter months but not the summer.

Now water cooling is a good way to avoid this but unless a graphics card uses a AIO a lot of people do not want to water cool for what ever reasons.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

Also it needs to be said that while AMD generally give a TDP that's higher than their actual use. Nvidia bend the truth somewhat about their TDP.

Let's look at the GTX 980 TDP '165w' VS 290X TDP '290w' VS reality.

Claimed difference by Nvidia '125w' Actual difference '29w'

Reference 980 can actually use up to 280w..

ill leaves thease here

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014...rix_dc_ii_oc_video_card_review/9#.VLY8TVWsX4E

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014...980_sli_overclocked_gpu_review/6#.VLY8jlWsX4E.

Back on topic after the disappointment that was tonga (GCN 1.2) AMD will need to come out with some much improved tech to keep the performance up and the power usage down.

As Hawaii or Tonga with more cores even with HBM is not going to work. Relay they need to aim for 40/50% faster than a 980 with the 300w TDP is true. Long are the HD 5/4/3xxx days when they where touting "smaller more efficient cores" which they where bashing nVidia with at the time.

Anyway's I want some competition it will only be a good thing for you and I even if its just speeds up the release of a full fat Maxwell.

 

[Sin_Chase]

Don't care about TDP, so long as it's cooled sufficiently and has the performance to warrant the power.

I hate this comment. I see where people making it are coming from but it's total nonsense.

You DO care about TDP because, no doubt, you care about heat output, cooling capacity and overclocking headroom. They all rely on each other.

What is a valid statement is "TDP is not my primary concern"

Cooling technology has moved on very little, it's rather well known what wattage can be dissipated with various coolers on the market. if you run a killer custom water loop or more exotic cooling then you can largely throw power draw to the wind. But for most people they SHOULD care about TDP/power draw as it will impact on them somehow. Be it noise, heat output (to room and system) or overclocking potential.

 

[Silent_Scone]

Nah, it'd be the tdp of the card as a whole, so it would be included anyway

There isn't any real definition of TDP to speak of so they can technically at least deviate a little. It's a bit of a casual term really lol.


And to further Sins point above, 3 980s are a lot more manageable in a three way configuration than 3 Titans for example. I think a lot of people assume the core running temp is basically all you need to worry about. Power consumption is the least of my concerns, that doesn't stop me being grateful for just how much cooler my internal temps / room temps are when running 980s. All that energy needs to go somewhere. Both Titans and 290x get hot real fast, especially with voltage.

 

[Zeed]

for me tdp can be at 350 **** 400 i dont care as long as it DELIVERS !!!
Have a look how much power does 290x draw with +200mv. I am looooking around 480w more or less !!!

More TDP ??? Whats the problem just add another 240 rad= sorted

 

[David Bisset]

I hate this comment. I see where people making it are coming from but it's total nonsense.

You DO care about TDP because, no doubt, you care about heat output, cooling capacity and overclocking headroom. They all rely on each other.

What is a valid statement is "TDP is not my primary concern"

Cooling technology has moved on very little, it's rather well known what wattage can be dissipated with various coolers on the market. if you run a killer custom water loop or more exotic cooling then you can largely throw power draw to the wind. But for most people they SHOULD care about TDP/power draw as it will impact on them somehow. Be it noise, heat output (to room and system) or overclocking potential.

I don't care about TDP. I care about noise and overclocking headroom. Yes, they both relate to how much heat is being created and need dissipating, but TDP doesn't really tell you this anyway. Firstly, when overclocking you're not respecting TDP at all. Secondly, TDP is a some-scenarios guide and actual power used/heat generated varies wildly.

That's not to say a card that uses less power isn't desirable for heat reasons and such a card may have a lower TDP - but I don't now nor ever will choose a card based on TDP. I'll base it on price, performance, noise, overclocking headroom etc and these are not necessarily improved by a lower TDP.