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Looking forward to reviews - very tempted to jump on a 7950X & Crosshair Hero, assuming performance is there.
You keep saying this, its some kind of get out clause.
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Looking forward to reviews - very tempted to jump on a 7950X & Crosshair Hero, assuming performance is there.
Personally think all AM5 boards will be more expensive. The switch to LGA will increase costs due to building in some margin for damage/returns that hasn't been needed with AM4X670 will be cheaper than x570
Personally think all AM5 boards will be more expensive. The switch to LGA will increase costs due to building in some margin for damage/returns that hasn't been needed with AM4
That's exactly the reason X670E is using a pair of chips; using 2 chips reduces the need for heavy duty traces and retimers across the entire board because each chip isn't required to "reach" as far with its PCIe 5 lanes.Extra shielding and testing for highfrequency...Pcie5 will eat away any savings at chipset. Two chipsets...
You keep saying this, its some kind of get out clause.
One thing AMD understand is the cost of their boards vs Intel is a part of their success. You would think they would want to keep costs down as much as possible and MLID suggested this is what AMD are doing.
True, but it came across as a bodged design from all concerned. Asmedia didn't get their PCIe 4 controller ready in time so AMD retrofitted a Zen 2 IO die on a rubbish GloFo process. End result was high idle power and active cooling. Then it seemed none of the mobo vendors could build a fully Gen 4 layout without using a boatload of boosters and retimers, massively inflating the cost.X570 wasn't exactly cheap lol.
How much faster ST are people generally expecting the 7950X to be compared to the 12900KS?
That assumes they will be faster. Or are you talking about stock performance?How much faster ST are people generally expecting the 7950X to be compared to the 12900KS?
New hardware will always command a premium at launch, X570 and B550 were both much more expensive than today so anyone jumping in for the first few months should expect to get milked.One thing AMD understand is the cost of their boards vs Intel is a part of their success. You would think they would want to keep costs down as much as possible and MLID suggested this is what AMD are doing.
i've got 6 teats .. milk away .. will be my last ever build at 56 ... 2k rdy and waiting even tho it could go to better things ... lolNew hardware will always command a premium at launch, X570 and B550 were both much more expensive than today so anyone jumping in for the first few months should expect to get milked.