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AMD to unveil Zen 4 CPUs at CES 2022

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Wish these boards weren’t so crazy expensive these days. Even a few years ago a nice high end board was reasonable money. Now they are insane! Something like a Tomahawk AM5 will probably suit me just fine.
 
The gigabyte boards look cheap, they've massively cut down on unnecessary excess bling bling; top of the range x670e gigabyte looks like a mid range board from x570 range

X670 will be cheaper than x570
 
Armageus said:
Personally think all AM5 boards will be more expensive. The switch to LGA will increase costs due to building in some margin for damage/returns that hasn't been needed with AM4
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I'm just basing this on the rumoured/leaked prices of gigabyte x670e boards which was first posted 2 months ago and suggested gigabyte was cutting its prices by 20-40% across the product range

For example the auros extreme x670e model was rumoured/leaked at $500usd where as the x570 version of this board had an MSRP of $700
 
Apparently the chipset is a lot more cost effective then teh X570 and boards should be cheaper certainly in teh lower price ranges. Based on this article HERE
 
Chipset is not a huge part of motherboard cost.
Extra shielding and testing for highfrequency DDR5 and Pcie5 will eat away any savings at chipset. Two chipsets...
 
alec said:
Extra shielding and testing for highfrequency...Pcie5 will eat away any savings at chipset. Two chipsets...
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That's exactly the reason X670E is using a pair of chips; using 2 chips reduces the need for heavy duty traces and retimers across the entire board because each chip isn't required to "reach" as far with its PCIe 5 lanes.
 
One thing AMD understand is the cost of their boards vs Intel is a part of their success. You would think they would want to keep costs down as much as possible and MLID suggested this is what AMD are doing.
 
Martini1991 said:
X570 wasn't exactly cheap lol.
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True, but it came across as a bodged design from all concerned. Asmedia didn't get their PCIe 4 controller ready in time so AMD retrofitted a Zen 2 IO die on a rubbish GloFo process. End result was high idle power and active cooling. Then it seemed none of the mobo vendors could build a fully Gen 4 layout without using a boatload of boosters and retimers, massively inflating the cost.

I mean, look at the TRX40 boards. That was vendors' 2nd attempt at engineering PCIe 4 boards and - shock horror - they did a better job of it and were price comparable to X570 boards but with a boat load more kit on them (e.g. 3 times the number of PCIe lanes).

Pretty sure the reason B550 boards were also expensive was simply because the reference point was already so high, not because B550 was expensive to make; if your X570 board costs 500 notes, it's entirely logical for a B550 board to cost 300 given the subset of features. Yes, I'm using Asus as an extreme example, but Gigabyte and Asrock did the same thing. MSI were the only ones IIRC who didn't have a stupid money X570 board, so they never had a stupid money B550 board.
 
MSI accidentally releases marketing materials that confirm Ryzen 7000 is arriving on 15 September, the wccftech leak was right

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MSI confirms Ryzen 7000 CPUs and X670 motherboards are set to launch on September 15th - VideoCardz.com

MSI X670 motherboards to launch mid-September Yesterday MSI revealed the design of its new X670 motherboards, today the company confirms when they launch. MSI confirms X670/Ryzen 7000 launch date, Source: MSI MSI has now confirmed exactly when the Ryzen 7000 and X670 motherboards launch and...
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Dave2150 said:
How much faster ST are people generally expecting the 7950X to be compared to the 12900KS?
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The X3D Zen4 models launching not long after later this year maybe hold out ? See how they are

Will be the same case reduced performance but with gains in gaming by how much remains to be seen 8 core version only ?
 
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One thing AMD understand is the cost of their boards vs Intel is a part of their success. You would think they would want to keep costs down as much as possible and MLID suggested this is what AMD are doing.
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New hardware will always command a premium at launch, X570 and B550 were both much more expensive than today so anyone jumping in for the first few months should expect to get milked.
 
Joxeon said:
New hardware will always command a premium at launch, X570 and B550 were both much more expensive than today so anyone jumping in for the first few months should expect to get milked.
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i've got 6 teats .. milk away .. :P will be my last ever build at 56 ... 2k rdy and waiting even tho it could go to better things ... lol :)
 
god willing hoping to pick up a 7950x and a asus crosshair x670e and some 6200-6600mhz ddr5, got 2.5-3k ready but hopefully dont need to spend that much, but before that reviews will show all if good then its a done deal :)
 
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