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***AMD Trinity review thread***

Martini1991 said:
I'm always going for ROG boards myself, although I think it's the stupidest thing I could possibly do.
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I like the ROG Boards, the last one i had was a Crosshair Formula III

Great board, had the little LCD thingy and the Little Chipset fans and everything.... :D

Absolutely solid, you couldn't fry it if you hooked it directly to the national grid.

But it's really for people who do silly things like dry freeze CPU's and GPU's
Beyond that they are no better than any other high end Asus board.

For everyday use a little lesser board is just as good, so that was the last time i spent silly money on a silly board.
 
Martini1991 said:
CPU's are important in gaming on the PC.

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Yes but they aren't generally, maybe in older titles where high end cpus get 200 fps and the slower ones 120fps, (Which at the end of the day doesn't matter to a budget gamer.) but the vast majority of newer games want GPU power.
 
It's not just older titles at all.
I'm not saying it's unplayable with an AMD, as that's far from the truth. But if you've got a CPU capable of X, and your CPU's limiting you to Y, then it's not all about GPU grunt, some titles practically require an i5 etc for 60 FPS (Although, they're not the norm)

You can't get 60 FPS in every game with an AMD CPU, regardless of what GPU set up you have.
 
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Martini1991 said:
It's not just older titles at all.
I'm not saying it's unplayable with an AMD, as that's far from the truth. But if you've got a CPU capable of X, and your CPU's limiting you to Y, then it's not all about GPU grunt, some titles practically require an i5 etc for 60 FPS (Although, they're not the norm)

You can't get 60 FPS in every game with an AMD CPU, regardless of what GPU set up you have.
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Go on then name a few.... Apart from the odd RTS there's not a lot else.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
What about,the ones who suggest buying something secondhand with no warranty and then comparing it to new prices??!! :p
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Open-minded and consider other alternatives that can ACTUALLY meet the requirement of gaming at 1920 res with semi-ok settings, rather than blind-praising whatever new tech bone that get thrown their way igoring that the fact that it is only doing "ok" for 1680 res despite most potential consumers would be using it with a 1920 res monitor/TV? I'm suuuure there are tonnes of people STILL stucked on a 1280 res HD-Ready TV in this day and age using with their HTPC with it who are DYING to do some gaming on it :D
 
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But you've conceded the point in your own reply, knowing it to be true?
Latest game is Borderlands 2.

For some people who have 120HZ monitors they don't have a choice at all.
 
Martini1991 said:
But you've conceded the point in your own reply, knowing it to be true?
Latest game is Borderlands 2.

For some people who have 120HZ monitors they don't have a choice at all.
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Why would you buy a 90 quid chip to play RTS's? Or MMO's as the other poster put it.

If fact why would you buy a 90 quid chip expecting 60 fps in all situations unless you were a complete and utter retard?

Hell my 2700k @ 4.6 and 680 doesn't give me 60 FPS in ALL situations at 1080p.

There's plenty of reasons to buy a 90quid APU if you are looking for a decent all-rounder....
 
I'm not on about 60 FPS minimum.
I'm on about 60 FPS averages.

And I don't expect that from Trinity. A 150 quid FX8150 you couldn't get 60 FPS average in every game.
You seem to change the goal posts, I stated a new game that couldn't do 60 FPS with an AMD CPU, then you turn it around saying why would I expect a 90 quid chip to do it (Which I don't that's not what Trinity is meant for, it's an APU)
 
Martini1991 said:
I'm not on about 60 FPS minimum.
I'm on about 60 FPS averages.

And I don't expect that from Trinity. A 150 quid FX8150 you couldn't get 60 FPS average in every game.
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So stop banging on about it and just be generally impressed with what you get for the price. There's lots out there where this chip would be a cheap upgrade and do everything they want, including playing some games at high detail albeit lowish res. Hell most of my mates don't even know what FPS is, just that COD feels a bit smoother to the other games on their consoles.

For gaming this is a 720p chip had it'll handle everything thrown at it at med/high detail (Higher than consoles.) if you've decent ram and there's lot who would be more than happy with that.
 
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I'm impressed with the APU, you just seem to perceive everything I say as negatively.
I've said even the dual core unlocked would be tremendous value for 720p gaming on several occasions now.

Although I don't 100% agree with it being a cheap upgrade as it's not a drop in upgrade, you need a new board.
It's certainly a cheap for a PC you want to do some gaming on (If they're coming from rather poor and old system, then yeah it's a cheap upgrade)
 
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Martini1991 said:
I'm impressed with the APU, you just seem to perceive everything I say as negatively.
I've said even the dual core unlocked would be tremendous value for 720p gaming on several occasions now.

Although I don't 100% agree with it being a cheap upgrade as it's not a drop in upgrade, you need a new board.
It's certainly a cheap for a PC you want to do some gaming on (If they're coming from rather poor and old system, then yeah it's a cheap upgrade)
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You need a board for most new chips as thats the trend... Intel have been seemingly been needing at least 1 extra pin on their new CPU's for some reason for years now.

AMD have already said their next gen APU will support FM2 haven't they. At £40.00 for a board does it even matter?
 
Yeah, the next generation APU is meant to work on FM2.
Again, I've acknowledged this in other threads as a good thing, but you'll forget where I've actually praised this launch.
 
kitch9 said:
You need a board for most new chips as thats the trend... Intel have been seemingly been needing at least 1 extra pin on their new CPU's for some reason for years now.
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But Intel's platform with the i5 2500K at around £150 was literally giving more than double the performance comparing to the i3 2120 in games that would use 3-4 cores, AMD on the other £150 8 cores over £90 4 cores make next to no difference in gaming performance, so I don't know how the comparison is even relevent...unless we only use result of applications/productive tasks that would use 8 cores as representation.

The difference is that the the performance difference between the i5 2500K and the i3 2120 and even IvyBridge CPUs is in the open for everyone to see bare...whereas how much faster the next gen CPU on the FM2 comparing to the current gen CPU is still a big unknown. If the FM2 has another high-end quad-core CPU at around £160 that offers double the performance of the A10 right now (like how the i5 2500K is available as a alternative to the i3 21xx for people that are willing to pay more), I think the Trinity would become much more attractive...
 
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im surprised at the power consumption
intel early next year, lower power, better gfx, surely they win again ><
not trying to be down on AMD but they need to win more than just the budget desktop
 
I'd be surprised if Haswell can outdo Trinity.
I mean HD4000 is outdone by Llano.

EDIT : Although today Trinity CPU wise looks like a poor option, as do most Intel chips, Phenom II X4 955 60 quid at OCUK.
 
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Mei said:
im surprised at the power consumption
intel early next year, lower power, better gfx, surely they win again ><
not trying to be down on AMD but they need to win more than just the budget desktop
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Check the idle power figures (which is what the chip will be doing most of the time). It's lower than the i3. All in all, it'll balance itself out.
 
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