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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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Mauller said:
I was reading around and it appears GP106 is made on samsungs 14nm LPP node. And after checking a few sites, besides being obviously power limited by PCI slot power it can still hit 1.8-1.9ghz and hold it in some games.

So besides the extra info with Ryzen being at 3.4ghz base on the same process, it just shows that Polaris is limited in clock speed by its architecture and density. It makes me wonder if they have adjusted the density/architecture for higher clocks with Vega since the node can obviously handle it.

Also makes me wonder what the max clocks a Pascal part could do on 14nm LPP if someone made a 1050ti with x6 power connector. Since the design seems to be limited around 2.0-2.1ghz on TSMC's 16nm FF+.
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GF's version of Samsung 14nm lagged behind Samsung a bit - so that doesn't mean conclusively anything for Polaris - GF only just added some fixes for performance parts (one of the reasons Polaris is clocked relatively low seems to be due to a huge variation in the quality of initial production - a good number you can drop the out the box voltage down significantly and it will stay stable at default clocks but also a good number can't drop voltage at all).

I doubt you'd see 2.1GHz on 14LPP - they were lucky to get away with it on TSMC - anything over 1.8-1.9GHz at ~300mm2 is hugely ambitious.
 
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r7slayer said:
I thought in business 1h meant literally anytime officially in the first half of the year, as they do not have an official date for multiple reasons.
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Nope, it is a way to try and fool naive investors to think perhaps Q1 and things would be unlucky to fall as late as May-June. Except it is semi-officially a term used to mean mid-year. This is especially true of AMD who have a history of announcing H1 release dates which turn into a June release.

If AMD planned on a Q1 release they would have said that (and Q1 would mean no earlier than march).

Also, bear in mind that AMD had some closed demos of Polaris in December 2015 but couldn't release theRX480 before June30 2016 with decent volume some time later. IF AMD demonstrated something at CES then I would expect a similar release date at the end of June, if there is nothing at CES then some chance than its more of an August-October release and things are late. If there is something sooner ten it is liekly a dual Polaris 10 card, which makes sense if they stick to an RX490 naming.
 
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D.P. said:
Nope, it is a way to try and fool naive investors to think perhaps Q1 and things would be unlucky to fall as late as May-June. Except it is semi-officially a term used to mean mid-year. This is especially true of AMD who have a history of announcing H1 release dates which turn into a June release.

If AMD planned on a Q1 release they would have said that (and Q1 would mean no earlier than march),
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It's partly that, but it's also not wanting to fall foul of investor laws by claiming (say) a Q1 release that pumps the share price due to implication ("new card coming earlier than expected, beating Nvidia"), then finding they have component or yield issues that make them late. AMD would get sued for misleading investors.
 
Steampunk said:
It's partly that, but it's also not wanting to fall foul of investor laws by claiming (say) a Q1 release that pumps the share price due to implication ("new card coming earlier than expected, beating Nvidia"), then finding they have component or yield issues that make them late. AMD would get sued for misleading investors.
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And this being one of the reasons among many. Also making it publicly aware when their cards are due can lead to competition finding time to counter. Our 1070/80 competitor is out feb BOOM nvidia drops prices etc.

It's clear this time around AMD really want to try and push the envelope and get back in the game.
 
Steampunk said:
It's partly that, but it's also not wanting to fall foul of investor laws by claiming (say) a Q1 release that pumps the share price due to implication ("new card coming earlier than expected, beating Nvidia"), then finding they have component or yield issues that make them late. AMD would get sued for misleading investors.
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I think it's not to do with that to be honest, it would be dishonest to mislead anyone (investors, press, customers) so not just down to laws but morals. A lot of investors still want to see the sums add up to push up the shareprice, for them to actually buy. In fact some are predicting quite a drop in the AMD shareprice due to being a little over done of late (still no profit for example?). Predictions range from $5 a share to $13 with $8.5 being the mean. They still have a lot to prove and have been dragged along a bit by the rise in the Nvidia shareprice.When a company does so well it's normal for investors to look at who else works in the same industry and throw money that way too :) . Nvida could also drop quite a bit if they now fail to impress in the coming quarters. RIght now they are expensive but based on their predicted earnings over the coming quarters they could be cheap........ but if one of those quarters fails to impress it'll mean a big drop in shareprice probably.

1H does indicate it's most likely going be released after the 1st quarter so don't build hopes up it's going to come in january. I reckon they've focused a lot on the CPU side and bringing competition to Intel so the GPU's side has had to take second priority.

Saying 1H is better than 2nd quarter as it makes people think it may come in the first quarter, but will probably not :D, but it may put some off buying the competitors products if they think AMD may have something soon. Nothing immoral about that.



Time will tell!
 
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r7slayer said:
And this being one of the reasons among many. Also making it publicly aware when their cards are due can lead to competition finding time to counter. Our 1070/80 competitor is out feb BOOM nvidia drops prices etc.

It's clear this time around AMD really want to try and push the envelope and get back in the game.
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Not really true at all. All companies have to be honest towards shareholders and investors. AMD said H1 2017 knowing full well its not going to be Q1. The same goes for all companies when they use such terms.
 
FoxEye said:
Yay another clickbait title and an article which basically says "It could be X or it could be Y; we don't even know if this is Vega or Polaris or..."

Really should stop expecting anything better from wccf.
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I wrote that about wccf regarding the "GTX1080Ti confirmed" article, with no reference to the source in linkedl

And digging through linkedl nothing about the 1080Ti, they just need some manager to push forward the NV experience online subscription model.

However his article was reproduced by others, so because of that "must be true" since 10 different <I will not call them something>, reproducing the same article without any references to the sources......
 
Panos said:
I wrote that about wccf regarding the "GTX1080Ti confirmed" article, with no reference to the source in linkedl

And digging through linkedl nothing about the 1080Ti, they just need some manager to push forward the NV experience online subscription model.

However his article was reproduced by others, so because of that "must be true" since 10 different <I will not call them something>, reproducing the same article without any references to the sources......
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The whole things laughable because they do it again and again and still get all the clicks they want.
 
J.D said:
:eek: 81 pages in and there's no carnage or do you mean some next level carnage?.

:D
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Overclocked carnage! 81 pages (or 31 long pages) in and still no info on a release date than you can get from the title (H1). And yet back I come every couple of days. I'll be back tomorrow too for no useful info ;)
 
Rezident said:
Overclocked carnage! 81 pages (or 31 long pages) in and still no info on a release date than you can get from the title (H1). And yet back I come every couple of days. I'll be back tomorrow too for no useful info ;)
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yep I'm always looking here for some real news, will it ever come

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