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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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DragonQ said:
I plan on getting a 1440p 144 Hz Freesync monitor at some point next year. It seems as if a Fury is the best option for this right now (can be had for under £300 new) but presumably it's worth waiting for Vega considering the Fury is 18 months old already? I guess I could get a used Fury to hold me over if the monitor I want goes on sale sooner rather than later.

Would be interested in thoughts on this.
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You might want to stay away from a 4gb card, especially if you're going for 1440p and 144 hz.

If you plan to stay with an AMD card you don't really have anything to buy at the moment.

The 480 has the memory but not the grunt. The Fury has some grunt but not the memory. I'd think it's best to wait a bit more and aim for some Vega model with both memory and grunt. That's what I'd do anyway :).
 
Agreed, at 1440p 4GB will be okay for the moment but waiting for an 8GB card with more grunt than the RX480 (which is a fantastic card) is probably the better option.
 
Griffildur said:
You might want to stay away from a 4gb card, especially if you're going for 1440p and 144 hz.
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I am having no problem on 4GB with my Fury card. Smooth and stutter free. I do love how some people defend the 970 and then have a go at the Fury for having 4GB Ram. Hypocrates :p
 
DragonQ said:
I plan on getting a 1440p 144 Hz Freesync monitor at some point next year. It seems as if a Fury is the best option for this right now (can be had for under £300 new) but presumably it's worth waiting for Vega considering the Fury is 18 months old already? I guess I could get a used Fury to hold me over if the monitor I want goes on sale sooner rather than later.

Would be interested in thoughts on this.
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You don't want to go buying a graphics card now when it's for a monitor you plan on buying next year. If you have not got a card get something that's not pricey to tide you over until you are getting the new monitor, that way you'll have Vega available and that'll be a much better 144hz 1440p card than a Fury X.
 
maonayze said:
I am having no problem on 4GB with my Fury card. Smooth and stutter free. I do love how some people defend the 970 and then have a go at the Fury for having 4GB Ram. Hypocrates :p
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I agree with this too mate but TBF they do defend it for 1440p (meant 1080p sorry). I would not be so easy defending it at 1440p lol. It might be okay with some games but not latest n greatest. Fury has more horsepower for sure and slightly more memory. (faster memory)


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maonayze said:
I am having no problem on 4GB with my Fury card. Smooth and stutter free. I do love how some people defend the 970 and then have a go at the Fury for having 4GB Ram. Hypocrates :p
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Every time wrote about this, I was pilloried as AMD fanboy and the 970 is fine......

And because of that I know that Nvidia can go away with any similar scam.

For example the rumoured GTX1080Ti could be easily a GTX1080 with unlocked voltage and higher clocks. No other change over the 1080. And people will go and buy it.
And where I am basing this assumption? Why they would cut further their margins of cutting further the failed quadro chip, instead of selling more TXP?
 
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Panos said:
Every time wrote about this, I was pilloried as AMD fanboy and the 970 is fine......

And because of that I know that Nvidia can go away with any similar scam.

For example the rumoured GTX1080Ti could be easily a GTX1080 with unlocked voltage and higher clocks. No other change over the 1080. And people will go and buy it.
And where I am basing this assumption? Why they would cut further their margins of cutting further the failed quadro chip, instead of selling more TXP?
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I don't disagree on people buying it but that isn't likely to happen it certainly couldn't easily be a 1080 with unlocked voltage - bumping the voltage up 20% on the 1080 gives you basically no more overclocking potential unless you go sub zero and even then the increased clocks mostly come from the reduced temperatures. There is a reason the cores have a voltage lock - the 1080 is basically the process tapped out - any more voltage will very quickly degrade the core.
 
nashathedog said:
You don't want to go buying a graphics card now when it's for a monitor you plan on buying next year. If you have not got a card get something that's not pricey to tide you over until you are getting the new monitor, that way you'll have Vega available and that'll be a much better 144hz 1440p card than a Fury X.
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To be clear, I don't expect 144 Hz from any game, just 60+ Hz with Freesync. I know which monitor I want but am just waiting for it to be on offer - it was £30 cheaper on Black Friday than it has been at any other time but I hadn't done enough research by that point to pull the trigger. :)

I could just continue to play at 1080p until Vega comes out but I just wanted to weigh up my options. Right now it seems I wouldn't lose much buying a Fury then selling it later.
 
maonayze said:
I am having no problem on 4GB with my Fury card. Smooth and stutter free. I do love how some people defend the 970 and then have a go at the Fury for having 4GB Ram. Hypocrates :p
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Stop making a fuss out of everything especially in a Vega thread. 970 was a decent card, I know because I actually used one at 1440p. I would not recommend buying one now though, just as I don't recommend buying anything with 4 gb, be it HBM or not.

If you want to give some decent advice to someone then you need to stop seeing conspiracies everywhere and focus on the person asking for help. My position has not changed at all, you just choose to see whatever you want. There is a word for that as well :)
 
bru said:
This really is a pointless argument. Both the 1060 and 480 have sold very well, does it really matter if one has sold more than the other at one site rather than another.

Both are first round, new generation, non 28nm, too expensive for what they are (but not entirely AMD or NVidia fault), mainstream cards. Of course they are going to sell well.


ok that's my five minutes off back to the kitchen for me. :(
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This - as long as both companies can sell enough cards to be profitable and keep the competition going that is all that is needed from a consumer perspective.
 
Griffildur said:
You might want to stay away from a 4gb card, especially if you're going for 1440p and 144 hz.

If you plan to stay with an AMD card you don't really have anything to buy at the moment.

The 480 has the memory but not the grunt. The Fury has some grunt but not the memory. I'd think it's best to wait a bit more and aim for some Vega model with both memory and grunt. That's what I'd do anyway :).
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390X would be better as a tide over.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
This - as long as both companies can sell enough cards to be profitable and keep the competition going that is all that is needed from a consumer perspective.
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I don't even understand why anyone cares how many are sold anyway. Anything decent will sell and there is a market at every price point.
 
Griffildur said:
I don't even understand why anyone cares how many are sold anyway. Anything decent will sell and there is a market at every price point.
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its only of interest because if AMD kept selling ~20% of the desktop GPU's being sold then they aren't generating enough income to bother spending R&D money on developing them

if there was only 1 supplier then there would be no competition at all, let alone the paltry competition there is now
 
andybird123 said:
its only of interest because if AMD kept selling ~20% of the desktop GPU's being sold then they aren't generating enough income to bother spending R&D money on developing them

if there was only 1 supplier then there would be no competition at all, let alone the paltry competition there is now
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yeah I am familiar with those points, but the only ones who have a complete view over their sales are AMD and NVidia, not us. Maybe we should worry more about using the GPUs and less about R&D budgets we have no control over, anyway :).
 
Dave2150 said:
Knowing AMD, 'New Year' means June :D (June is still technically 1H 2017) right after Pascal's refresh :o

Hopefully they'll get it out by March.
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It too, 6 months before the first showing of Polaris to the first cards, we just had a small official peek of vega so june relase for the first cards would not surprise me. The cards need to come in q1 relay.
 
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