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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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richb83 said:
So just lots of speculation at the moment?
And does the H1 in 2017 H1 mean 1st half of the year?
So we could be waiting till June / July before launch?
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When AMD and most other companies say something like H1, they mean May-June, they just don't want to say Q2 so uninformed people will mistakenly think Q1.


Nothing I have seen indicates otherwise. June will be 1 year on from Polaris which fis AMD's roughly yearly schedule. At CES last year AMD demoed Polaris and we got the final boards 6 months later. So Far AMD have provided less concrete information on Vega than they did about Polaris last year.



If AMD are using HBm2 then they probably have to wait until at least then to get supply.



So unless we hear otherwise I would stick to AMD's H1 (may-June) timeline and be pleasantly surprised if things come in April. The latter is not impossible but liekly the minimum time frame.
 
nashathedog said:
Sadly it sounds like some distributors where still pushing dodgy models out the door if it was still going on 4 months later, Presumably not from here though or was it?
I waited about 5 or 6 weeks before giving up and grabbing one of the overclocked Tri-x models before they were all gone.
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Not from OC UK no, various UK retailers.
Anyway I ended up doing the same as you, went for a Tri-X Fury Pro (which was then flashed and is now running with unlocked CU units) ;)
 
nashathedog said:
Even better follow the plan as with Grenada and don't have reference cards only aftermarket models.

The Grenada chips actually ran hotter than Hawaii but without the week reference cooler to show that it's not been a big issue and it's not what people will remember about the 390 & 390x.
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Very true, but I love the design of the Fury X, and that lovely red Radeon logo.

I hope top end vega has something similar, while being cool and quiet.
 
I had high hopes for Vega. But seems they are holding back the good stuff. The 1080 competitor will be out first which personally i was expecting it to be right on the heels of the titan xp but appears not. Its fighting the 1080 and this is the flagship for the Vega 11. The good stuff is Vega 20 which wont even be out anytime soon 2h 2017 from what i can tell. I don't get what AMD are doing because they missed the high end with polaris which yes was a good idea to give them more time to focus on vega and hit that high end but they need more than just something to compete with the 1080. They needed something to give that Titan xp and run for its money because lets be honest the titan xp isnt even a full GP102 which could exponentially be a 1080Ti if need be. Then there is the GP 100 which is the quadro which i very doubt nVidia will turn to consumer level unless AMD really gave them a beating.

This new arc will start off slow i presume and get better over time but it needs to be there from the start. They allready have given high end to nvidia by missing the start line with polaris so Vega really needs to give the 1080 a battering and be giving the Titan xp a run for its money or i dont see the point unless they come in VERY VERY competitive on pricing which is the only thing i can see AMD doing now. Which might be why Lisa Su said Vega will be very very competitive.
 
See I feel that vega has to beat or equal the titan XP, because you know that it won't win by being cheap, especially when it uses HBM2...
 
I am building a red system at the moment... perhaps it is an omen that it will be a willing and ready recipient for the almighty Radeon Red Vega! If not, an RGB 1080Ti will have to suffice. ;)
 
I like some of your sarcasm around here, however just to sober some of you, I would like to peak on the benchmarks eg 3D Mark Spy here in this forum....
You will see that 2 overclock Furys (not even X) are as fast as an overclocked TXP.

And given that someone can grab 2 used Nanos (FuryX) for ~£200 each these days.....yeah....

Any nightmares some might have tonight, I am not responsible. Just stating some facts :)
 
Panos said:
I like some of your sarcasm around here, however just to sober some of you, I would like to peak on the benchmarks eg 3D Mark Spy here in this forum....
You will see that 2 overclock Furys (not even X) are as fast as an overclocked TXP.

And given that someone can grab 2 used Nanos (FuryX) for ~£200 each these days.....yeah....

Any nightmares some might have tonight, I am not responsible. Just stating some facts :)
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You can keep Crossfire and SLI. I shudder at the thought of going back to it.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Well at least your posts are consistent :p never fail to brighten the mood.
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Both are very consistent :D. Can someone explain the .gif underneath though?.:confused::confused: Fair enough it reaching the 980 (non Ti) but that's where it ends. If the title switched to Fiji in 2015 then it's a little bit closer but still a bit off. Still is quite funny though, found it in an argument on one of the Vega articles comment section.

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Panos said:
I like some of your sarcasm around here, however just to sober some of you, I would like to peak on the benchmarks eg 3D Mark Spy here in this forum....
You will see that 2 overclock Furys (not even X) are as fast as an overclocked TXP.

And given that someone can grab 2 used Nanos (FuryX) for ~£200 each these days.....yeah....

Any nightmares some might have tonight, I am not responsible. Just stating some facts :)
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2 Cards? No thanks, we want the more efficient heat/noise/power draw of one card, plus double cards are trickier to overclock both of them and keep stable, as opposed to a single card.

Also... it takes 2 Furys to catch up with TXP, are you sure it's not 2x 390s? Damn that woulid mean AMD are much further behind than Nvidia, or scaling in Crossfire sucks real bad. I.e. less reason to Crossfire. I buy a GPU, I expect to get 100% out of it. Not buying 2 and getting 70% from both of them combined.

Fingers crossed Vega can pull it back for AMD. I'd honestly be a bit happier if they released a full stack and Vega was the 500 series, perhaps with optimised Polaris as the 570/580. Makes sense being a possibility considering the entire 300 series was rebrands, so it wouldn't hurt doing that for the cheaper cards.
 
nashathedog said:
Same here, I'm hoping I can afford to go with an 8 core but a 6 core will still be okay with it's a 50% core increase over what I have now. I'm really glad AMD have there own tech similar to hyperthreading.
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For the first time, they basically had to come up with an SMT implementation. Back in the day SMT was Intel's answer to AMD's real dual core CPUs so AMD had the advantage. Intel followed suit and dropped SMT, and by the time they brought it back in Nehalem AMD were already pushing ahead with Bulldozer, which featured CMT so there was no need for SMT. Since that was a failure and AMD scrapped the whole CMT approach, Zen marks the first time that AMD actually have to use SMT to compete with Intel's SMT.

You'd have thought it wouldn't be as good as Intel's implementation because it's a first stab rather than a 10th stab (or whatever it is), but based on their demos maybe it is just as good...
 
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