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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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They've done the sensible thing with Ryzen. If the leaks on performance are true, then it's 6900K performance for almost a third of the price.

I can't see them derping and charging cray cray money for their Vega cards. If they do, I'll just wait and buy a 1080 or 1080Ti (if they ever arrive) after prices drop. I've got absolutely no interest in supporting mental prices by buying into them.
 
spoffle said:
They've done the sensible thing with Ryzen. If the leaks on performance are true, then it's 6900K performance for almost a third of the price.

I can't see them derping and charging cray cray money for their Vega cards. If they do, I'll just wait and buy a 1080 or 1080Ti (if they ever arrive) after prices drop. I've got absolutely no interest in supporting mental prices by buying into them.
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The first part made sense but the second part didn't. You say you won't be supporting mental pricing but would buy a gtx1080 which has been mentally priced for around a year by the time Vega comes out. At least stick to your own standards. The only reason Vega would be priced high is because if faster than the gtx1080 they can price around it. If the gtx1080 was £400 and Vega was only slightly faster AMD would not come in with crazy prices. I don't get why people expect great pricing from AMD but if they don't deliver it they will pick up a Nvidia card that's priced just as crazy for a year or so more.

If AMD come in with a faster card and price it reasonably i would hope people vote with there wallets.
 
TheRealDeal said:
The first part made sense but the second part didn't. You say you won't be supporting mental pricing but would buy a gtx1080 which has been mentally priced for around a year by the time Vega comes out. At least stick to your own standards. The only reason Vega would be priced high is because if faster than the gtx1080 they can price around it. If the gtx1080 was £400 and Vega was only slightly faster AMD would not come in with crazy prices. I don't get why people expect great pricing from AMD but if they don't deliver it they will pick up a Nvidia card that's priced just as crazy for a year or so more.

If AMD come in with a faster card and price it reasonably i would hope people vote with there wallets.
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That's why I said "when prices drop". I'm not in need of a new GPU as I've got a 980Ti which is enough for now, which I bought after prices dropped...
 
spoffle said:
That's why I said "when prices drop". I'm not in need of a new GPU as I've got a 980Ti which is enough for now, which I bought after prices dropped...
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Still rewarding Nvidia with a sale when there pricing was stupidly high for a year. Any how a gtx1080 really is not much of an upgrade from the 980ti if yours overclocks really well. The ti might be though and i have a feeling Nvidia will be countering before Vega is released with a pPascal refresh.
 
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True, but then I needed a GPU and AMD didn't have anything that I could have used. So I bought the best GPU for the job.
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The gtx980ti was a good buy though. The gtx1080 on the other hand took pricing to stupid levels for what is not even there top end chip. If people keep paying then Nvidia will keep milking. It's as simple as that. AMD will hopefully put the pressure on with pricing but i wouldn't blame them if they wanted in on some of the milking that Nvidia have been doing. Still i won't be happy at them either as i want a decent priced upgrade sometime this year.
 
TheRealDeal said:
The gtx980ti was a good buy though. The gtx1080 on the other hand took pricing to stupid levels for what is not even there top end chip. If people keep paying then Nvidia will keep milking. It's as simple as that. AMD will hopefully put the pressure on with pricing but i wouldn't blame them if they wanted in on some of the milking that Nvidia have been doing. Still i won't be happy at them either as i want a decent priced upgrade sometime this year.
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Things are shaping up well though as Ryzen looks like it could be a decent upgrade at the leaked prices and if vega comes in fast and well priced then i hopefully will be having a full on AMD machine for the first time ever.
 
TheRealDeal said:
The first part made sense but the second part didn't. You say you won't be supporting mental pricing but would buy a gtx1080 which has been mentally priced for around a year by the time Vega comes out. At least stick to your own standards. The only reason Vega would be priced high is because if faster than the gtx1080 they can price around it. If the gtx1080 was £400 and Vega was only slightly faster AMD would not come in with crazy prices. I don't get why people expect great pricing from AMD but if they don't deliver it they will pick up a Nvidia card that's priced just as crazy for a year or so more.

If AMD come in with a faster card and price it reasonably i would hope people vote with there wallets.
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That's the problem for anyone who hasn't upgraded yet though, they won't pay ridiculous amounts hence why they have not bought Nvidia ( obviously many have bought them too ) but if amd do the same for the same then it's another meh card.

Don't get me wrong if it's in between 1080 and pascal performance then that's a £600 card and will do well enough, I just won't be buying it at that price.
 
I still don't get how the 1080 is too expensive, when it blows the £500+ (on release) 980 Ti out of the water, and has an extra 2GB vram, and the FuryX, which went for more than some of them (as it went up to £650), and only has half its vram, yer having a giraffe.
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
I still don't get how the 1080 is too expensive, when it blows the £500+ (on release) 980 Ti out of the water, and has an extra 2GB vram, and the FuryX, which went for more than some of them (as it went up to £650), and only has half its vram, yer having a giraffe.
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Well that would be because the gtx980ti in comparison blew everything but Titan X out of the water for cheaper when it released. The gtx1080 was a die shrink and overclock for overclock was not that much faster than a year old card not to mention it cost more. We all know it's not even the top chip. With a die shrink would you not expect something much faster for close to £600.
 
Its like you're just going off the numbering, because its an 80, it should be no more than the older 80s, even though it blows em away, as well as the much faster £500+ cards as well.

I bet if they called it a 50, you'ld all be screaming it should be £150 MAX :p
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Its like you're just going off the numbering, because its an 80, it should be no more than the 980, even though it blows the much faster, £500+ cards away and has more vram.

I bet if they called it a 50, you'ld all be screwaming, it should be £150 MAX :p
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Nope the numbers mean nothing. Your confusing me with somebody else tbh. The performance and price are what i judge it on. It's not that much faster than a year old chip and it had the die shrink on it's side. It came in priced higher.
 
So you saying every time a card is faster it should cost more even across different generations so with that, in a few years even a 1260 will cost £600 if it is faster than a 1080 and 1280 will be what 1100 if it beats a titan X?.

As cards get faster they increase in prices is that what you saying.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
I never meant you specifically, i meant in general :)
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In general i am either impressed or not lol. A die Shrink used to mean a nice bump in performance at your price point. The gtx1080 bumped the price and didn't offer to much more. The gtx980ti has loads of headroom in comparison so can narrow the gap to around 15% when both are pushed. It's just not impressive to me. I am finding that these days nothing is too impressive. Thing is if GP102 had been released as the 1080 like years back i would be impressed as that's the kind of performance we should be getting for a node shrink and a price bump.
 
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